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My observation for this update: More of the same old, same old. No dramatic changes from last month. Inbound anchor text in particular seems to be very important. However, I rarely look at spammy SERPs, so those who are familiar with those would be better able to evaluate whether Google is doing better or worse on squishing spam.
It has been widely reported that backlinks have dropped. The main "wisdom" on this is that many PR 4 & 5 sites have dropped to PR 3 and so are no longer being counted as backlinks.
can it be that many backlinks are missing due to an incomprehensive crawl? One way to check backlinks, is via Alexa.com which uses Google, but shows all links irrespective of PR; however, it is limited to 1 per site (which is a qood way to see how many unique sites link to you)
On the category i work in DMOZ does have a major affect on the listing. I am sure of this because the category i am in dmoz doesn't have an editor and hasn't for 18 months. Only the sites that were listed prior to this with DMOZ are ranking consistenly in the top 10. even if there are better sites out there, on the same subject.DMOZ is a must in my opinion to site performance. -i'm signing up now to edit- ETHICALLY of course
I am a little frustrated that tactics that google bans are boosting unethical sites at the expense of those that have good content. But i am not moaning, one must just try harder and remain above such dishonerable methods.
I suspect it may be a cold day in hell before spamming is dead... Google needs to hire the people of China and get them to check every page individually :-) maybe then...
Weird though. Some of the backlinks which are listed haven't existed for 2 months. Google must be getting sloppy
I thought I was getting de-ja-vu, because I was seeing a lot of things like old page titles, old back-links, etc. And I thought it was just my imagination; it couldn't be that old versions of my site were showing up again. I thought it was just that these pages had not been updated and were always listed the same on Google.
but now, I'm seeing posts like these all over this board, and I think Google did something wierd...not only are many new pages, links, titles, etc. not showing, but those from the Feb update or earlier are showing again. In other words, Google is displaying old versions of it's index in some places.
There appears to be something wrong with this update, which is slowly coming out.
I agree with you. Things are weird. Backlinks are still fluctuating, and, am I the only one to find it weird that all eight of the datacenters (I haven't checked the -?2's) aren't the same?
I also find it funny that the serps haven't changed (for me anyway) significantly at all - most people seem to agree that "the algo hasn't changed".
I think that the dance happened, but something went weird. I noticed that GG left around the time that -sj and -in went sour, and hasn't been back much since...
Am I out to lunch with these observations?
To put things in perspective, many -- but not all -- of old established websites in my industry have also taken serious falls in their SERPs. I can't figure out why.
I hope this is not the case, or else we are in store for a very boring WWW. This would make it even more difficult than it already is for new sites to break out. What would make more sense is for Google to give newer sites a temporary boost, just long enough so the new site gets some exposure, then remove the boost. Yahoo used to temporarily put new listings at the top of the category (do they still do this?), which was a major help.
It gets harder and harder each year for new people to jump into this game. Personally, I've got enough traffic and PR to redirect some to any new project I work on (all hobby type stuff so far, not commercial), but I can imagine people starting from scratch are having a hell of a time.
I successfully lost 20% of my traffic in this "upgrade". :(
So now all of these sites are showing up as PRNothing although they have links from DMOZ and other sites. However one site which had 3 links in a dmoz category (heh dont know why or how) but it shows up with PR.
Should I take this as the link from the main site was decredited as when I do backlink check it doesnt show links from any of the other sites on our servers which link to it. And if I get enough other sites to link to these other webpages then it will have PR again?