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driesie

10:49 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have build a site, and I spend quite a bit of effort in optimising it for search engines (trying to anyway). What is very strange is that google still seems to index/cache my very old "coming soon" page. This page has been replaced approximately 2 months ago or something.
The website is: [yabedo.com...]
Does anybody have any idea why that is?

dries.

PS. any other feedback on the site, good or bad, is very welcome! ;)

creative craig

10:54 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to webmasterworld [webmasterworld.com]

We dont do site reviews, you best remove your URL :)

The Google update is coming very soon (next 4 days or so maybe), wait to see if your site appears in the new index with the new cache.

Craig

Marketing Guy

10:56 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ive had the same problem after a site redesign a few months ago - a lot of top level pages are showing up fine, but lower level ones are still showing old pages in the cached version.

Scott

creative craig

11:00 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Scott, you just need to wait for a new full crawl of the site, or has it been deepcrawled fully?.

I had a redesign in the last 2 months or so and I had the site fully recrawled in the last deepcrawl. It should show in this next update.

Craig

Marketing Guy

11:04 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Googlebot has been on the site a lot (up to yesterday) but i havent really looked at the paths its taken or individual pages that it has eaten up.

Scott

dobaba

2:02 pm on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google's cache contains a version of my page from December. I make almost daily updates. Last week I noticed that Google refreshed my page on March 23... but that only lasted for a couple of days. Then it went back to the December's version. Any ideas of why?

takagi

2:15 pm on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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dobaba, welcome to WebmasterWorld. Your page was most likely visited by the 'Freshbot [webmasterworld.com]'. For more info please read the 'Googlebot: Deepbot and Freshbot FAQ and Information [webmasterworld.com]' thread. Data collected by the freshbot is ignored after some days. After that, Google will return to use the normal 'Full Index' data. This is normally updated every month. But for some reason (e.g. your site is down when the deepbot is crawling) the data could be older.

[edited by: takagi at 2:25 pm (utc) on April 4, 2003]

dobaba

2:25 pm on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thank you takagi. I have read the FAQ, but I do not remember seeing anything that will explain why Freshbot will update Google's cache, only to go back to an older version after a couple of days. Can you point me to the question number?

Thanks

bwhitey

2:29 pm on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The same thing is happening with my site. The explanation that I was given was everflux. You might try looking for that term in the site search.

creative craig

2:30 pm on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google Updates and Everflux, the Monthly Mid-Cycle Changes [webmasterworld.com]

This thread also has info on Everflux, which may help you as well :)

Craig

dobaba

2:46 pm on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thank you very much. I see that this is frequently asked. A thread was going on at the same time I was asking: [webmasterworld.com...]

I don't like the fact that Google keeps an old copy of my page in its cache ... but I am happy that see that this is normal. I guess misery likes company.

driesie

4:26 pm on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Didn't realy expect anybody to review the site as such, I just thought maybe somebody could see what's wrong ...

I understand that google doesn't always spider the 'deep' pages, and therefor a page can be 'out of synch'. But this is the homepage, and it definitly been longer than 6-8 weeks since it's updated.

Is there anything about http headers or anything I should know?

takagi

5:07 pm on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hello driesie, few comments about the site.

You wrote the 'Coming soon' pages was replaces only 2 month ago. That makes it a very new site. The last Google dance was early March with data collected end of February. By now Google should have started a new Google dance so this problem should soon be over. The homepage has a low PR (PR3) so Google will only spider a limited number of subpages (so far 37). Google seems to give a lower priority to spidering dynamic pages (*.php?catid=13).

There are 15 external links according to www.alltheweb.com. Your site is new, and Google's last full index used data that is some 7 weeks old. So some of those 15 (and maybe even more) external links might not have been used in the calculation of your current PR. Google will spider more 'deep' pages when you get a higher PR. So just wait for the next Google dance.