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To get a google update every DAY (SURELY) instead of a google update every MONTH (PERHAPS)
Don't want to pay?
Wait
I have been producing websites for 4 or 5 years.
I had my own Advertising company - the site never had any traffic.
The numerous personal sites I made relating to my hobbies - they never had any traffic either.
When I first launched my current site, I had given up on the idea of getting any kind of search engine position and wasted time on viral nonsense.
Then I discovered this forum and Bretts infamous note. Now I have traffic and high search engine positions (page 1) and it's only three months down the road.
You can do it!
Anyhow, you go starting something like that you don't know where it will end up! How deep are your pockets?
To get a google update every DAY (SURELY) instead of a google update every MONTH (PERHAPS)
The freshbot updates every 48hrs!
I have clients willing to spend as much as they spend for Inktomi and Fast PPI schemes, up to 10 urls (that is, 180$/year for Fast, 250 $/year for Inktomi with PositionTech).
Why just because you can't get them into google?
-gs
Anyway, why ruin a good thing? Google works for everyone - including site owners.
Freshbot added my last page, FTP'd Monday evening, today. What could be faster than that?
I currently wholeheartedly support Google's avoidance of PFI schemes, although whether this will continue in the current climate remains to be seen.
I can get them in google, I can't wait one month that lately is 40 days and you never know when and you waste work hours in this nonsense, that is money so at the end of the day you waste more money now than with a PPI scheme
From your post I would have to say that it seems like you see PPI as a means to solve your Google problem, but if you don't have a Google-friendly site in the first place, how is this going to help.
>>Better paying for 48 hours refresh than a free update every 720 hours
I don't mean to repeat myself, but getting listed in Google is all about links. Getting links (even one) can get you respidered every day for no cost whatsoever. So who needs paid inclusion?
>> I can't wait one month that lately is 40 days and you never know when and you waste work hours in this nonsense, that is money so at the end of the day you waste more money now than with a PPI scheme
It sounds like you might need to rethink how you are approaching to your online marketing. I can't think of anything you can do that will help your ranking and indexing in Google that is not generaly a profitable exercise anyway. Get links, add content, optimise pages - this is all helpful for visitors anyway.
-gs
Sorry...
I say they just keep bringing in the revenue with Ad Words and their other partnerships... PPI wont work - it dosnt work for the others either. (because they spider all of our sites anyways - without paying!) :)
The website I mention above shows only 1 link in a Google link: search. There are only 5 sites in the entire index that even refer to the domain in question. The site has been visited consistently by freshbot practically every day since the last update. (Currently showing a nice 1 Apr 2003 tag)
As I said, use whatever money you would spend on PPI (if you could) on kick starting a link campaign. Small businesses get links too - if from no-one else, from other small businesses!
Na this is a much sweeter deal, where else can you advertise to highly target "leads ... read visitors" for free?
You want to change that and give your money away? Understand that once you get a number of pages in google the traffic will always flow (if you do a good job of optimizing and choosing keywords).
From that point on you should only recieve more traffic with each update at no cost to yourself.
So why pay?
Brian
Tell them to stop making brochure-ware and do something worthwhile with the Web?I don't see why brochure-like small business sites are not worthwhile - I often will visit a small business's site to read up on what they do and I find this an excellent use of the web (of course, this is providing it is a well-designed, informative site about what they do). Saves a phonecall sometimes ;)
This is a different discussion. Nothing against brochure-ware, just suggesting it's not the best way to get high traffic to smaller co.
Suggy
But I am talking about small business websites that nobody is interested in linking to.
I have such a site. I have written one article that is linked from it that is gradually being linked to by peers. I have four second level noncommercial pages that have no links from the top, but they are linked by up to 1000 sites in one case.
There are no magic pills for such clients. They need to work at creating content, preferably generic articles on their subject matter, so that others will be pleased to link to them. A self-serving brochure page won't get links from anyone.
Googlebot visits me every 48 hours free of charge. (PR6)
The reason I responded to your comment is that I feel there is a place for small-business websites that simply detail their services, etc.. and links aren't the only way of finding what's on the web. Such sites are more useful to people visiting who already have an idea about the company, but just want to find out more. (ie. rates, portfolio, etc.). Agreed though that such a site is VERY hard to get links to, apart from the paid variety!
As Daamsie suggests, if you want to pay us Adwords. The solution is NOT to wreck what works for everyone else.
£200+ just to be considered for indexing in each search engine is an expense most small businesses find it hard to justify.
And not only does it make it more difficult for small businesses to compete with large ones but it makes it practically impossible for non-business websites to ever make an impact, regardless of how excellent and useful the site may be.
I've never really understood the point of Overture and so on... when I search for a website, I want to find a good, relevant website, not a website with a Search Engine budget of a given size. I don't see that one equals the other.
