New domain before launch gets a PR7 w/ 1 link?

how new domain ranks so high?

[Alphawolf]

A new domain [not officially launched] with 1 backlink from a PR7 site has a PR of 7 on it's index page and there are some preview pages- those have a PR of 6.

I checked web archives and it was never archived...just a generic coming soon host page was archived.

So- how does it have a PR7?

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[jimbeetle]

Did you only do the backlink check on Google? If so the site might have more backlinks than are returned. Just to be sure try alltheweb with:

link.all:www.domain.com -site:www.domain.com

Jim

[Alphawolf]

jimbettele,

Ah- OK...I sometimes forget Google isn't the only SE. :)

Yes- alltheweb shows they have a PR7 link, a PR8 link, and 3 PR3 and below links.

Guess the PR7 and PR8 links were enough.

Thanks.

AW

[jimbeetle]

Wow, the PR7 & PR8 pages the links are coming from must not have to many outgoing links to pass on that much PR.

I was actually expecting that you would find many, many PR3 and below backlinks to account for a new PR7.

[pmac]

If the page is new and has not been included in the main index (excluding fresh results) the toolbar PR may be just a guess. The actual toolbar PR will be known once the page has been been included in the index, perhaps in the next update.

[Alphawolf]

Wow, the PR7 & PR8 pages the links are coming from must not have to many outgoing links to pass on that much PR.
I was actually expecting that you would find many, many PR3 and below backlinks to account for a new PR7.

Nope- just the two plus a couple low end links.

The PR7 linking site is an author site and he only has two links to amazon for his books- and a link for this new domain - which he will be a part of.

The PR8 site that links is a personal site...but has 2,730 backlinks according to Google. There are many links on that one page- at least 30 that I count.

Perhaps it's a guess as pmac suggests. Will see after this coming update.

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[Alphawolf]

If the page is new and has not been included in the main index (excluding fresh results) the toolbar PR may be just a guess. The actual toolbar PR will be known once the page has been been included in the index, perhaps in the next update.

Great point, pmac. I'll try and remember to check it our after the next update.

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[oLeon]

either - or:

either you have a PR due to at least one link
or you have none.
I donīt think so, that the PR is like a guess. As I understand it you can only have a grey toolbar (pagerank not yet calculated) or a green one (calculated).
The only pages with a guess are within a website, where G tries to catch a pagerank regarding to the pagerank of the homepage.

[Alphawolf]

oLeon,

Hmm. Yeah- makes sense. Why would Google 'guess' a PR of 7?

So, I suppose the two quality links is what got it there already.

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[pmac]

Does Google see the link(s) pointing to the page? If not, then the toolbar PR you are seeing is a guess.

[oLeon]

The PR 7 site must have a high 7, so that the site it points to also get a 7 in PR.
(Be aware that PR is not a linear but an exponential calculation)

Google doesnīt guess. If Google would not see the links pointing to the new site, the new site wouldnīt be in the index at all.

[pmac]

Check out the discussions below for info related to "guessed" toolbar PR.

[webmasterworld.com...]
[webmasterworld.com...]
[webmasterworld.com...] (message 11 from NFFC pretty much nails it)

[oLeon]

A bit confusion about 'guessing':

I meant both you mentioned.
First the guess within a website (reg the example from www.geocities.com/thispagedoesntexit.htm --> would get a pagerank of geocities untill the real one is calculated).
Second the pr you got from an high ranked page. I agree with NFFC. In this case from Alphawolf I īd assume the second one fits - plus what I said: if there is only one link from the booksite to the new one, it gets probably its pr 7.
If the next months the new site only has its pr 6, youīre right - if itīs a 7, I am.

[doc_z]

Since Google is showing a backlink, it is not a guess.

[plasma]

BTW: could you place a link to my site?
Just kidding :)

[Alphawolf]

Guess I'll check next update. :)

No need to argue over it.

Interesting thing pmac brings up- if it's calculated then why doesn't Google show those backlinks?

Perhaps the links are active and Google 'sees' it, but it won't show up in the backlinks until this next update?

The site will do well as it's a community hub for the best web creation software. ;)

AW