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What happened to the Fresh Listings?

We've seen Freshbot crawling around but...

   
2:36 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Am I wrong or have there been almost no Fresh results since the update?
2:40 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Damn, I was just going to ask that question!

I think I saw one for a client of mine dated 9th or 10th but nothing else.

I believe most of the crawling has been from deepbot - which is suprising. I haven't seen much activity from freshbot lately.

4:41 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've been geting attacked by both the freshbot and depcrawl. Especially the deepcrawl!
4:47 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've been waiting almost a month to have some new pages crawled. They're only two clicks from my PR6 home page (was PR7 up until the last update, and like many other sites it declined a little).

This is unusual -- normally Google has my new pages in the index within a day or two.

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5:50 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Seen Freshbot - and Deepbot - but still not in results
6:03 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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yah, stalebot so far this month
6:06 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am getting plenty hits from the FreshBot but still nothing from DeepBot! In the UK.

-gs

6:14 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Of course, hits everyday from the freshy but no minty listings :(
8:17 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

We were crawled heavily on March 7,8,9,11 from freshbot...hundreds of our new pages showed up in the SERPs in the top 5 for their respective optimized search phrases on March 11...since then nothing...this means that freshbot liked the pages from an optimization point of view...but now the pages are sitting in a separate database waiting for the deepcrawl cycle to validate the inbound link relationships we have been working on...

When this happens then the pages will find themselves established in the main index and from there one needs to continue to build out good solid relevant content and continually work on those inbound link relationships...

You can expect this process to take about 90 days from inception of new content to inclusion into the SERPs....adjust your dreams accordingly...

6:52 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Anybody have any thoughts on why no fresh listings for so long? Freshbot visits and does nothing with the data. Big change coming in Freshbot calibration? Thanks for any views.
9:05 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I noticed the cache is fresh though!
9:16 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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nope, it's being served from the deep-freeze: 8th March
9:28 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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no sorry, I checked the cache of pages that missed the deepcrawl yet junior crawled them (I uploaded them too late and missed the crawl) and that's the cache!
9:44 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All of my pages have the matching OLD cache. I've never seen Google refresh the cache before the listings. Hey bluecorr, do you know someone at G?
10:00 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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oops sorry my mistake, it had crawled the page twice! Apologies.
10:02 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I keep thinking what GG said about "Minty Freshness" in the results. I would generally expect the major news sites to be a good guide but they are all showing a cache from 11th March. Our site was visited by the Deep Bot on the 10th, 11th and 12th but nothing since, not even the Fresh Bot. Has anyone seen a Fresh Bot in the last couple of days?
10:10 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've seen lots of freshbot activity today. The freshbots are still out there.
12:45 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The freshbots are still out there. Also, just because we don't show a fresh tag doesn't mean that the page isn't fresh. :)
1:22 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All I can say is "Thank Goodness for Google News" cause I haven't seen any evidence that the regular Google search results have been updated in 3 days. We have several news sites that aren't showing the fresh pages yet (usually they are updated every day).

The good news is it appears everything else is the same. A quick check on CNN and USA Today aren't showing fresh pages for the past few days either. (I checked for the recent Utah "Smart girl found" stories - nothing).

GoogleBot's been active every day, but I think with all of Google's new business ventures, they must be getting a little tired lately.

1:53 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>The freshbots are still out there

I thought I said that already... ;)

2:01 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>just because we don't show a fresh tag doesn't mean that the page isn't fresh

This is a point to pay attention to. I have several pages indexed right now which I know were not in the update, but have no fresh tags. Therefore, the results are fresh but not labeled as such. However, my index page showing in Google is a cached result from a while back. Conclusion: some of the current listings are fresh, others are not, fresh tags have been turned off to avoid confusion.

2:10 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I added a lot of pages in early feburary and only sometimes they show up. Surely the deep bot would have picked them up by now.. but still I only see them popping up every 3 days for my target keyword.. why is this?
2:12 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you added the pages in early Feb. they may not have been picked up by the Feb. deepcrawl. If that's the case, they will probably be picked up right about now and included in the next update. In the mean time, enjoy your fresh listings.
9:26 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Then why does the title and description look 1 month old while the cache looks fresh?
10:33 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Finally...fresh tags are back
11:09 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see tons of fresh tags but unfortunately on pages that are unchanged and that were there before without the frestag while the new pages are still showing old content :(
11:11 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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New pages added to a site in Google on Thursday are now showing up in the SERPS. :)
11:25 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here in the U.K deepcrawl was 13th and freshbot shows 15th. All seems fine, it will be intersting to see if they can pull the update back though.
1:43 pm on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> I haven't seen any evidence that the regular Google search results have been updated in 3 days.

GoogleGuy must have been listening to my plea... TONS of fresh information this morning!

8:39 pm on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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only PR6 and above have been freshbotted, it used to be PR5 and above...or am aI wrong?
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