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Command "-link:www.domain.com" no longer working?

         

coconutz

6:25 am on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not working for me. Did Google feel this revealed too much?

bummer

waynet

7:26 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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But we were talking about -link:domain

I did find out a little bit before they took it away, or at least changed the format of it. I guess we should keep an eye on our logs just in case there is a new command, and someone from google uses it and clicks a link.

alxdean

7:38 pm on Mar 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Argh, now that I know what it was I really miss it. not that I ever knew about it nor used it. But hey I wish I could have known about it and used it beforehand.
jeez, have to remember to come back more often and stay on top of things.
keep up the good work here!
This community ROCKS!

hetzeld

7:50 pm on Mar 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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link:domain uses some unknown (presumably randomised) ordering.

Ciml,

If you issue the same "link:" search 10 times in a row for a given domain, it gives the same list, with the same ordering.
That doesn't even look like random ;)

Dan

kevinpate

7:57 pm on Mar 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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well, if one can't view link strength via subtraction, and one can't reverse the process and determine the strength via addition, I guess all that would be left would be to find another manner to pound out such details. 8^)

ciml

8:26 pm on Mar 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good point hetzeld. I remember when the subject came up before link: stopped returning results in PageRank order; at the time I thought a standard Unix hash would make sense, but I don't know what the process is.

Incidentally, I don't think it's crawl order either. If it was then the results would be quite similar to PageRank order.

globay

12:31 am on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you issue the same "link:" search 10 times in a row for a given domain, it gives the same list, with the same ordering.
That doesn't even look like random ;)

Doesn't work for me. How do you do it?

Dino_M

3:00 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Any update if -link:domain.com is working anywhere?

Not working for me in the uk

hetzeld

5:21 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ciml,

Google has its own checksum for every URL in their database. If you're using the toolbar, you'll find out by looking in your temporary internet files. For each URL accessed, there's a search? file in there and the checksum is one of the parameters "ch=xxxxxxxx" providing the page has some PR.

If I were Google, I would simply order the "link:domain.tld" results by checksum, as this is "ready to use" data that they don't need to compute more than once.

If this is not the case, I guess I deserve a reward from Google for that "brilliant idea" - LOL

Dan

WebRankInfo

6:23 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've checked: the order doesn't seem to have any relation with the checksum...

BigDave

6:46 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Incidentally, I don't think it's crawl order either. If it was then the results would be quite similar to PageRank order.

I'm not arguing that it *is* crawl order, but it certainly could be and still not look like it is pagerank order.

As I understand it, Google starts each crawl with seed sites. These are PR10 directory sites. DMOZ, Yahoo! and Google. They put those three home pages in the queue and crawl them, adding all their links to the queue.

Next it runs through those new pages, doing the same thing. Those pages will most likely be all PR9s and PR10s. And while in the directories, it should continue the same way.

But some of those directory pages have 15 links and some have 150. A branch of the directory with few links would enter the queue at the same rate as a branch with thousands.

Once you get outside the directories it becomes even more complicated. Consider a magazine that links out of DMOZ very early. With all their articles archived, you might end up with a PR4 page within 3 levels of links from what will eventually be a PR9 magazine.

There will also be cases where a site has high PR, but it gets most of it from low PR pages. If "Joe Bob's Mailing List Archive" software puts a link on the bottom of every archive page, and it is used a lot, it might get the equivalent of a PR7 just from all the PR1 and PR2 links that are archive pages, even if it's best incoming link is only a PR4.

It is safest to say that the pages are crawled relative to the amount of PR that they receive from the PR10 seed pages. Crawling based on the previous month's PR just seems like a lot of extra processing to me.

Alphawolf

8:01 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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-link isn't working for me in New York.

I was able to play with it just a few minutes...then i wake up and see the posts here that it's gone. :(

AW

plasma

8:10 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Maybe it's just the GoogleDance?
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