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Ticking over quite nicely PR of 4 for the last 3 months.
Suddenly this update 0
I admit I have managed a couple of incoming links only over the weeks but even so there is a couple of links. These sites are now going to stop linking due to the PR0 penalty making things even worse.
I have not done any hidden text, funny colours, link farming.......I guarantee
I have spent nights slaving over producing a new design and added content ready to upload to the site but now I can't put it anywhere because its gone to PR0 so would be wasted, as most people say throw away the domain and start agin.
Is it possible that this sould be a mistake at all and maybe it will come back in the next update.
Any help greatly appreciated.
I did buy this domain name recently (Novemebr)however there is no archive in the archive website, although all other versions of this domain name have been taken could maybe someone previously have used it for bad things.
Even when it had a PR of 4 it only showed 2 backlinks and this was ones that I had got by emailing other sites.
When I first used this domain it wasn't even in Google (searching for the domain name) and only arrived after it was found through the incoming links I had asked for from other sites in January.
Thanks for your time by the way.
1 PR of backlinks may have fallen, decreasing the PR available to your pages.
2 Backlinking pages may have added a heap more links to their pages, decreasing the PR available to your page.
3 Backlinking pages may have changed format of links so they are no longer passing PR correctly (eg, via redirect or java links), or be excluding/limiting spiders via robots.txt or meta tags.
4 Backlinks may not have been in place when spidering for previous index was done. Either because backlinking page was down or backlinks had not been acquired at that date.
None of the above are penalties, they just mean that PR is insufficient for you to have a rank no.
I have seen a site ride on 'assumed' PR for a couple of indexes/months with only one low quality backlink to get them into the index. If the site is only three months old then it is entirely possible that your PR4 was not actually 'real' PR to start with.
I would of though a PR of 1 maybe would me more realistic....at least showing me there will be light at the end of the tunnel if I continue to build and grow.
I'm just a bit scared to get links from sites adding my new content and this still not making a difference.
Ideally knowing if a penalty has been imposed would be wonderful because I can fix what is supposedly wrong....again if there is a penalty....this seems to be the hardest part....
If the two links you have are from sites so smallminded *ahem* that they will remove the links in this circumstance, then forget about them and go looking elsewhere.
Spend an afternoon and apply to as many suitable sites as possible. There are plenty out there who don't know or don't care about page rank, and/or are more interested in your sites value to their users. Make sure you point out in your letter that you are a NEW site, but don't refer to Google or PR at all. Those in the know will check your PR anyway, those not in the know won't care or will get paranoid.
I certainly wouldn't go throwing away the domain just yet.
1) Run a backlink check in Google. Most likely it will show nothing, but just in case.
2) Visit the pages that were linking to you and make sure they haven't done anything that would have a negative effect on you as deejay mentioned (redirects in the URL etc.)
3) Look at Googles cached version of those pages and see if it shows your links as still being there.
If the PR of the pages that were linking to you is still adequate and a bunch of other links haven't been added AND your link is still showing on Google's cached version of the page, then there is a good chance of some sort of penalty such as the new domain expiration filter that Google recently implemented.
If it looks like you may have some sort of penalty and you can afford to wait, you can see what happens on the next update otherwise, you might consider contacting Google with the information about your site, what has happened etc.
After all, this new expiration filter is new and is sure to have a few bugs (not saying that's what it is, but it is a possibility) and it may be something tripped the filter with your site.
So here I sat wondering if something I did with style sheets screwed me up (since I just started learning how to use them) with having white text inside a dark div though the background of the page is white. Which I'm sure is ok but you start questioning whether your syntax or style gooped up the works.
I'd think there would be some trick to determining whether you have a pentalty or not. No, hey?
Meanwhile, thanks, and I'll stop beating my head against the poor wall. ;)
Say I'm called burger king and my url is burger king. whatever......
i no longer show up in the top 50 results......thats why I'm thinking penalty becasue most other sites that you type into google by name appear on the first page.
Well.... our domain *is* fairly new to us (Oct 2002) but we don't have that many backlinks and the ones that do show were definitely created after we put the site up and are a result of our work. I'd think if the expired domain issue applied to us that I would have seen other backlinks.... but then again... what do *I* know, hey?