Is an Immediate redirect considered a problem?

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Is an Immediate redirect considered a problem?

c1bernaught

5:36 pm on Mar 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Say there is a site that sells orange widgets. The Webmaster has created a page that is optimized for Google and he/she wants their page to get spidered, indexed and ranked. However, They want the user who hits this site to be instantly redirected to their affiliate site. Of course he/she still wants their URL, title, description etc. to be visible in the browser and so uses a very small frame or Iframe.

Is this considered spam?

finditnow

7:35 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Some of us are actually working to build great sites and service our clients not spam for PR. The PHP redirects that many of us use make it easy to make changes across a variety of site and also allow us to track clicks to outside sites. Stop worrying about what others are doing and try building great content rich sites.

Giacomo

7:51 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

finditnow, we are not talking about PHP (i.e., server-side) redirects here, but client-side redirects. Please read before posting.

mediaman

7:54 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

This is a short term solution, as Google will likely dump the site way down the serp's at the next refresh.

I would not do any sort of redirects, in my experience they are all bad at the end of the refresh.

finditnow

7:55 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't know if this is server side or client side but many do it and I just want to make sure that there is nothing wrong with it.

c1bernaught

8:01 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

finditnow,

Perhaps you were not following this thread. "Hey man, build better sites." is not the answer when month after month spammers dominate your theme.

I spend many, many hours trying to build a better site. Yes, I do this in the hopes of getting above the spammers in my theme. Guess what? IT DOESN'T MATTER. These guys are perpetual.

Perhaps you are an ethical SEO company. I don't know, but before dispensing your advice, to me, I invite you to "walk a mile in my shoes".

There needs to be a quick way of dealing with spamming cheaters. Not something that takes months, but hours or days.

As long as it's easy, and it's profitable, those that spam will continue to grow and to prosper.

One day you may get your butt relocated to the 2nd or 3rd page by a spammer. If that does happen, and your pissed off about it, my advice to you will be "build a better site, dude!"

SebastianX

8:05 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

finditnow, as polite as possible - no offense:

A million flies can't fail: eat more sh*t ;)

Just because many people do redirect it does not become an always legitimate or recommendable method.

Giacomo

8:09 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

finditnow,

That's an immediate client-side redirect.

Bad? It depends.

If you are using it to fool robots (e.g., on a doorway page), yes.

If you are using it as a replacement for a 301 redirect (e.g., to redirect users from an outdated URL), then it's OK.

c1bernaught

11:13 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm sure there are legitimate reasons to use a redirect. I'm not against the legitimate use of the redirect. Actually my problem isn't even with the illegitimate use of the redirect.

My issue, frustration, is with spam in general, and specifically those who use it to dominate the serps.

My secondary issue is with how long it takes to deal with, what is obviously, a blatant use of spam. I mean, people find it, research it, know exactly what it is, where it comes from, etc., but must wait a month or more for the spammer to be dealt with, if it's dealt with at all.

There must be a better way. A way that doesn't bog Google down and also makes the search experience better for the end user.

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