Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.224.63.26

Forum Moderators: open

Message Too Old, No Replies

DMOZ into Google Directory

     
7:18 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Feb 17, 2003
posts:687
votes: 0


I have seen DMOZ descrition appearing. But Google Directory is not updated yet. I recall that someone says Google Directory update at the different time as Google Dance. But I really don't know much on it because when I join webmasterworld, I have never seen a Google Directory update.

Can someone explain to me?

7:51 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Feb 4, 2002
posts:1314
votes: 0


Basically, you've described the situation perfectly.

DMOZ produces RDFs -- dumps of all its data -- and RDF users such as Google copy/edit them to create/update their directories.

This is a separate process to Google re-indexing all the sites it has crawled.

DMOZ had a bad few months and produced no useable RDFs between 2002-09 and 2003-02.

They now have working RDFs but Google has not yet used one. I believe they are on record as saying they will "soon".

daamsie

7:53 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Inactive Member
Account Expired

 
 


The RDF has been used in the 'description' for results.. it is not just a case of it having spidered DMOZ - my site now includes the category in the google directory that my site should be in, however when one clicks on that category - it is the same directory (same on -sj and -ex also). The question Athlon is asking (and I'm wondering too!) is when the directory will be updated as they are clearly using the new RDF dump?
8:01 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member rfgdxm1 is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 12, 2002
posts:4479
votes: 0


I must say that as an ODP editor I am also bummed out. So far, Google just has ignored all my efforts. C'mon, update the Google directory.
8:03 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member marcia is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Sept 29, 2000
posts:12095
votes: 0


daamsie, I'm seeing the same thing you are - directory description and link to the Google directory, but site not showing up there yet. We just have to give it time, the update just started.

daamsie

8:04 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Inactive Member
Account Expired

 
 


Happy with that Marcia -- I can't believe how impatient one gets around these times ;)
8:05 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member googleguy is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 8, 2001
posts:2882
votes: 0


I believe that we *did* get a newish RDF dump of the Open Directory. With any luck it should become more visible over the next few days. If I'm wrong, I will make squawking chicken noises on this forum.
8:07 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member steveb is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:June 20, 2002
posts:4652
votes: 0


Hey GG, check the other thread before bed. The analysis one.

daamsie

8:08 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Inactive Member
Account Expired

 
 


Thanks GG, I can certainly see that something has been added.. while on the topic of the directory - does the listing the google directory have an effect on PageRank or will it just be ignored like most other ODP dumps? thanks..
8:10 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member rfgdxm1 is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 12, 2002
posts:4479
votes: 0


>If I'm wrong, I will make squawking chicken noises on this forum.

GoogleGuy quote: "cheap, cheap". This has potential. ;)

12:29 pm on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Feb 17, 2003
posts:687
votes: 0


Oh, my DMOZ desciption is too long for google! haha. But glad to see it there, at least the make my listing longer!
12:35 pm on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Aug 15, 2002
posts:64
votes: 0


i'm seeing sites i have had listed in DMOZ with cats/descriptions in the www2 SERPs.

checking on the google web directory there is obviously no RDF update on there yet.

however doesn't it make sense that there is probably another server which contains the new minty fresh Google Web Directory and is used by the new index to build its SERPs?

At some stage during the update this will be transferred to directory.google.com.

i did try www2.directory.google.com but nothing there ;)

daamsie

12:38 pm on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Inactive Member
Account Expired

 
 


directory-sj.google.com and directory-ex.google.com don't have any new results yet either.. I don't know of any other servers.
12:50 pm on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Aug 15, 2002
posts:64
votes: 0


maybe there's a reeeeeeally secret one :)
2:35 pm on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Sept 28, 2002
posts:153
votes: 0


Maybe directory.google.com (DGC) is about to synch-up to 2003! A search in the just-updated classic Google shows ODP categories for some results which don't yst show up at DGC. I.e., Google itself is using a recent RDF from dmoz.org, but DGC is not yet doing so.

For example, a search of "some keyword" found a site whose results includes a link to Home/some_cat/ .

I created that category about 8 weeks ago. As of this minute, clicking the category link cause DGC to display a "cat doesn't exist" error page. Nor is the category visible when navigating DGC itself.

By the time you read this, it might be there. :)

-- Rich

[edited by: heini at 2:38 pm (utc) on Mar. 7, 2003]
[edit reason] sorry, no specifics and urls / thanks [/edit]

2:39 pm on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 23, 2002
posts:150
votes: 0


I'm waitiong for my new edits to appear too, not yet though. I see them show up at www2 as links, but the directory is still same ol stuff.
I'm guessing the directory is low priority. Lets hope they do it soon!
12:43 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Full Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Mar 3, 2003
posts:324
votes: 0


When i take a look at www3 for my site, and check out the 'links to' section i see quite a lot of new links, including ones from the google directory.

However, when i actually check the directory listing for this heading i find that my site isnt there.

Does anyone know if goolge uses new directory listing before they are actually put onto the web, or is something else happening here.

Also, when should these www3 results go to www?

12:47 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member shak is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:June 28, 2002
posts:4154
votes: 0


directory is not fully updated yet.

patience is required, and all should be sorted in next few days.

Shak

12:48 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member heini is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Jan 31, 2001
posts:4404
votes: 0


Netnerd, a lot of people have observed this. The directory listings, as shown on the new index, should be available at Google directory shortly.
In any case you now know Google did in fact include them.
12:53 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Full Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Mar 3, 2003
posts:324
votes: 0


Yeah heini - thats what im thinking too.

daamsie

12:35 am on Mar 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Inactive Member
Account Expired

 
 


I am wondering whether google is waiting on the directory update to move the new search index to www also.. I can only imagine that they would want the new directory to be live first, because otherwise there will be an awful lot of links on google that don't make sense..

There seems to be a little delay in getting the results on www - maybe this is why?

12:44 am on Mar 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 31, 2002
posts:150
votes: 0


What is [dir.google.com...]
also
[dir.google.com...]
.. follwed by /Top/etc/etc as normal.
anything significant, or just something that's been around for a while & I've not noticed?

foy

1:15 am on Mar 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2002
posts:121
votes: 0


If I'm wrong, I will make squawking chicken noises on this forum.

Forums are audible? Uhh, well I NEVER KNEW THAT!

2:17 am on Mar 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member googleguy is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 8, 2001
posts:2882
votes: 0


Isn't that what these audblogs are? Hee hee..

GoogleGuy, hoping he doesn't have to do a chicken imitation.. :)

2:24 am on Mar 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member rfgdxm1 is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 12, 2002
posts:4479
votes: 0


Still no directory update that I can see. GG, you seem to be most fowl. ;)

daamsie

2:41 am on Mar 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Inactive Member
Account Expired

 
 


http://dir.google.com/alpha/
interesting one gaga.. I didn't know about those pages at least - still the old directory though, minus any order by google rankings.

daamsie

1:55 am on Mar 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Inactive Member
Account Expired

 
 


Well.. I think a 'few' days have gone by now .. I would suggest GG, perhaps an audio recording with a link to that ;) I would be most interested in what kind of chook noises you would be capable of?
3:03 am on Mar 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:July 22, 2002
posts:66
votes: 0


When the directory is updated, will the positon of the websites change, that is the ranking within the directory? I've seen absolutely no change.
5:03 am on Mar 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 24, 2002
posts:43
votes: 0


Unfortuneately the RDF dumped all over the floor and GG is now scratching like a chicken to sort through the data. It's such a mess they can't even find the red button and this could cause a slight delay with the next update. This was all caused by factional infighting at DMOZ where the People's Front of ODP is clashing with the ODP People's Front, whereas the Popular People's Front is starting up a blog.
5:18 am on Mar 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Feb 17, 2003
posts:687
votes: 0


We hope other directory who use DMOZ will update their database as well!
This 36 message thread spans 2 pages: 36