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Most webmasters won't notice much change, but I wanted to give folks some advance notice. If your toolbar display changes a little up or down--don't panic. :) The change I mentioned, plus things like having more pages crawled in our index, can affect the toolbar display. As always, the traffic and conversions you get matter more than how many green pixels the toolbar shows.
Over the next few months, I think you'll see more emphasis at Google on scalable algorithms rather than responding to individual spam reports--please set your expectations accordingly--but we are also putting more emphasis on reinclusion requests from webmasters.
As always, I'll try to be around to answer questions and offer advice.. :)
Could you clarify sir what this means: "One resulting improvement with this index is better handling of expired domains--the authority for a domain will be reset when a domain expires, even though dangling links to the expired domain are still out on the web." My concern is the following. A really juicy domain name I have been lusting after expires. I thus keep checking every day waiting for it to released by the registrar so I can grab it. After say 45 days it is released and I snap it up. This domain no longer is expired. Would I be able to get this domain in the Google index because it is no longer in expired status?
Hope that helps!
A domain therefore cannot be priced due to it's PR. Extremely sensible. But it can have a value due to the number of referrals it gets normally (incoming clicks) and it's brand equity and good will with CUSTOMERS.
If that is the idea, (and i may have misread) I think its a brilliant move, though those who buy domains, SEO them, and sell them for value added on the basis of Google PR (said or unsaid) may be disappointed Im sure.
2much does have a good point though..
>>if you're already linked to from many authorities on the subject, it'll be very difficult to get more quality links! <<
How would google handle this situation?
This may well have significant implications for the domain reselling industry.
Will the new algorithmic changes be more agressive about filtering out sites that have created numerous duplicate sites with different domains and then crosslinked to gain PR?
Or is this something that we should still submit through spam reports?
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the authority for a domain will be reset when a domain expires, even though dangling links to the expired domain are still out on the web
OK Im concerner. How are you deciding when a domain is expired? Are you just comparing whois and if the whois is different you say it has changed hands and all links before are worthless? If so what happens when I buy a website and the whois changes to me and the site stays the same or if I just change my whois to stop spammers and data miners? For example I just had godaddy.com move some of my domains to private registration so that all the whois info was changed. Will that have any effects?
Any clarification on what makes me loose my authority ranking would be apreciated.
The bit about expired domains is interesting, I'm curious if this will be 'retroactive' or a 'forward looking' checker...? Meaning, for the dozens on dozens of domains I've seen that expired, and somebody change around, etc to be a whole new site - will those be dropped out now, or will they sill be there...?
GoogleGram - I like the sound of that. Keep 'em coming.
chiyo, you've got it exactly. There aren't any penalties for expired domains--they just don't get credit for pre-existing links. mrguy, if you ever see a problem, you can still fill out a spam report. JeremyL, we're using multiple sources of data stretching back to 2000 in order to cross-check. No one should get caught accidently. jeremy goodrich, certainly a "forward looking" checker makes sense. We do have enough data to go back quite a while retroactively though. Glad you like the GoogleGram idea. :) If you send an email to email@example.com about that domain you mentioned in your post (and it's within our guidelines now), you can probably get it re-included. why2kit, I tried to gently hint several times that buying expired domains just for the PageRank wasn't a good long-term plan. Hopefully this info will help webmasters look for sites with good names or visitor traffic, because it won't help to try to buy an expired domain to get PageRank.
Okay, gotta go stretch my fingers now. :)
Question GoogleGuy: HOW are you telling the pre-existing links from the new ones? Keeping a list of every page with an old link and remembering not to count it after each update?
JeremyL, we're using multiple sources of data stretching back to 2000 in order to cross-check. No one should get caught accidently.
So are you saying a website/domain changing owners but never actually EXPIRING can have the same effect? Or does the domain actually have to have no owner at one point to get nailed? I hate to say it but I'm really worried about this one as I have changed all of my whois recently on all my domains.
Actually I'm glad to see you guys do something about that. It was going to be a big snowball on down the mountain later on.
I just saw a site registered in Jan of this year with 1.3 million links. Curiously enough it's not an expired and it's also sitting number one. Perhaps Project AlgoBandaid isnt finished yet? ;)
[edited by: GoogleGuy at 5:10 am (utc) on Mar. 7, 2003]