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Finally, the prob: The site (see profile) is php and I have been repeatedly informed that due to the dynamic nature of php, META tags can't be added. Should you be brave enough to peruse this creature, you'll find that there is a sporadicivity to it's makeup. Some pages with titles, others without, tons of graphics, etc. Plenty of opportunities to work with and I keep getting told "It's dynamic, can't do the TAGS"
How do I approach this?
Am I asking at the right place?
Can I go other places to learn how to implement a php-laden site's promotions through search engines?
Does somebody have a glass of water?
Have I made any sense whatsoever?
Is an overwhelmingly chaotic character a flaw for a newbie?
Thanks for all the help so far, this site is a great pleasure to peruse...it's nearly my homepage lately.
Try BEER!
How many pages is the site?
PHP is not in my realm, though 'dynamic' is. Yes, there is some hope, even if it's just taking 30-50 pages and making them framed and loading the noframe tag.
>Is an overwhelmingly chaotic character a flaw for a newbie?
It's the rush of adrenalin, it'll pass after 4 or 5 years of doing this stuff.
Um, frames => no frames, er, rc? unfortunately in my case the n-e-w-b-i-e indicates that my knowledge is minimal here and the virginity's been welded closed. Got a lockpick, arc welder or translation into stable boyese so that I get that the right way?
Sheesh, being one of the few people left on the planet not on subduing meds is a pain....rc, I missed something in the noframes class, point me in the right direction to grasp it?
Thanx btw
weeeee
Well, the site is having some sort of server problem.
Looks to me you have 6 different categories that would all benefit from its own domain
[what's 20 bucks when you offer $1495 stuff]
Build them out 10 pages deep to start.
Framed as suggested above OR new static pages with good text.
Doesn't look like you'll have any prolllllllem with the text :)
hmmm, Thanx Mikey, for both the welcome and the page build concept...hmmm
Any ideas on whether or not I can apply to be trained through the collective expertise here? I have been floored by this end of things and am looking for all the info I can find. I'd even be more than willing to pledge to melt out undying loyalty and a chuckle or two....??
Heck, I'll even go thru newbie posts and act as spell-check central to get tutoring.
Yep, take a number, I think we're into 6-digits now. We'll call you when it's your turn. ;) (Number 3, next!)
Seriously, this is a dig in and read (day and night) resource.
>noframes
try this thread [webmasterworld.com...]
I'll send an url via stickymail (you know about stickymail?) View source.
Is there an award for flagging the most threads? I have just about decided that I may as well flag the ones that I DON'T find readable.....though I haven't run across one yet.
Anywho, scoped your post, email & the page and I'm thinking that I may require a higher dosage of glazed donuts to maintain the glazed look if everyone is as helpful.
Thanx for the ideas, though by no means am I completely transparent on how to do it, I will be scampering around and reading, eating them good ole glazed donuts & wondering how I got into this in the first place.
Sheesh, if ANYONE finds out I'm trapped on a 14.4 modem for the time being maybe they'll type slower and see where I'm really coming from. hehe
And you haven't even asked about keyword selection yet. Wait until NFFC, Oilman or some of the others get through beating that into, uh, helping you with those.
BTW, search on the phrase "Thou Shalt Not"
Mikey..I've been reading around like a head with no chicken and think I spaced on something...this is all new to me...by placing each category into it's own domain you mean.....?
Sorry for the cerebral gaps, the mortar gets a lil soft and prohibits osmosis' full dispersal, I've got tons of facts picnicking in my hair while awaiting visas into their spot in my skull lately.
rc......the link you sent helped some but also, go fig, raised at least one Q: Where'd the METAS go? Aren't they paramount for SEO? Did I miss something again?
Is this fun or taxing?
Well, if you answered taxing, at least you haven't been recruited to do a handcount in FL, eh?
I'm one of the 'metas have low weight' camp, even on a flat page (this is a divided issue, so flip a coin). The content dropped in a NOFRAME section works very much like a meta keywords tag.
There is more than one way to drive traffic.
imho separate domains will help focus the theme.
4-absolute-style.com
from
4-equestrian-essentials.com
from
4-natural-habitats.com/get/lady-reiner.htm etc etc etc
They all would point to the core site for the e-commerce solution.
Incease link pop.
Mr. Mackin, forgive my casualness and penchant for immediately assuming that I can jump into nickname status, sometimes my silly nature gets the best of me and puts others at odds. No offense intended & none taken by the "now now youngun" :) ...see?
As for the domainificationalizing of the separate categories, now that it has been oversimplified, HEY, I get it!!
Thank you both for your time, tried patience and ability to wade through my ramblings to suss out the Q's and post answers to them. I feel like I'm in my first day at school again. Apples anyone?
For large sites, I like a separate domain for each major segment. A few content-filled flat pages describing what the dynamic pages will dredge up are great starting points.
That's one we need to KEEP.
Have fun reading :)
Hmmm, during the prowl would I be known as WerzelSpider in the vein of BrundleFly?
Thanx. Er, my situation is probably becoming a little more common an occurance as the web is becoming more populated by the I-can-do-SOME-things-so-the-rest-must-be-self-explanatory tribe.
Having overheard Ms. Massivesite's complaint that she needed more traffic, Werzel-the-snoop chimed in that ALL she needed to do was to submit her url to search engines. (kerplow) I earned the priviledge by knowing THAT much!
Hoppin down the Bunny Trail I went and wound up making a wrong turn someplace and wouldn't you know it? I was surrounded by all these SE's with varying qualifications for listing. So I researched them and discovered that Ms. Massivsite's site wasn't quite as complete as I had thought.
Then along came the Big Bad Wolf (her programmer) who told me 'Touch my code & I'll huff n puff n blow you down.'
So here I am looking for other ways other than actual Optimizing to promote to SEs. It would seem by recent findings and patient teachings of rc and Mr.Mackin-to-you-boy :) that I am left staring down the hall to a group of doorways and a series of domainificationalizing as my initial attempts.
Any thing to add to the tale?
The Big Bad Wolf usually has a cousin in the art department that demands that all the main pages are to be Flash.
added:
Search on "Presentation Time" -Miss NeedsTraffic might enjoy the reading experience / reality check.
Well, if you want to find out just how far the bunny trail goes, stick around. You have found the never ending story.
>domainificationalizing - you're killing me Werzel :)
at the risk of getting off topic let me tell you about the newest bunny trail we have discovered: it leads through the deep, dark Inktomi forest. This forest is populated by big bad PFP-osaurs. They pick you up and bop you on the head and steal your wallet but at least they leave you where someon with a keen eye can spot you. You really need to keep an eye out for the Ink-Free-osaurous. This guy is nasty. He'll pick you up bop you on the head and bury you so deep in the forest that no one will find you unless they stand right on you and scream your name out loud - even then it's iffy. At least they let you keep your wallet but a fat lot of good it does you in the middle of an impenetrable forest.
oil
Thanks for the addendum, one Q though: <<<This forest is populated by big bad PFP-osaurs
Is that the prehistoric ancestor of the PFoPotamus?
Makin light of things due to the frightening moral you introduced to the tale.
>trained through the collective expertise here
Werzel, start out armed with plenty of printer cartridges and coffee, fire up the printer, and if you haven't already seen it, look here:
The step by step tutorial is exactly that, and is NOT to be missed. It should be required reading before anyone gets their hands on doing a web site. Each and every one of those articles should be read, printed out and re-read.
Once you have the basic view of the big picture, take advantage of the search here - for example, doing a search on keywords, looking for full text, in keyword discussion,
will bring up a list of threads not only about keywords, but their application. Collective wisdom is here to be found, but takes a bit of routing out to find it.
<<<This forest is populated by big bad PFP-osaurs
oilman, we timid forest dwellers try to stay clear of the PFP-osaurs, and gravitate toward the friendlier forest creatures like googlebot and scooter - safe territory until they also begin to show ferocious fangs and claws.
Final word, Werzel, try to catch a few hours sleep at least three times a week, whether you need it or not - and reboot once a day.
Man **G shakes her head**
I can't even laugh at that statement because it is so painfully true.
-G
- Print out at least three cups of java a week
- Get a few hours (a few?.... hmm, Oh yeah, checks bible-thingie...a few, which is eight) of rebootivity
- Drink in all Tips after taking it from the PFP-osaurus
- Smile as much as I've been reading until my face is stuck like that
Perks up a bit.
Doesn't sound so bad.
I went & dumped the dynamic site temporarily and got a couple static nightmares to play with.
(here googlebot, I got goodies)
