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8:35 pm on Aug 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I am about to submit a new site, but I don't want to until I am clear on one thing:

Am I supposed to submit each sub-domain, or submit the main-domain and let the robots and spiders come to the rest?

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Andrew,

Funny you bring this up. I just asked the Director of SEO to submit a newly released site, and was curious as to what he should be doing. Please let me know what feedback you receive.

Awaiting good results...
~Eric

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In my opinion you may as well submit each sub domain. I have heard people claim that you get a boost from pages that are "found" by a spider. But I think it is better to ensure that the spider is told about the new site, rather keeping your fingers crossed that it finds the site itself.

I don't think that it actually matters with google, as googlebot will pretty reliably follow links. With slurp, it may also help to hang some links off pages that are already in the database.

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Google will pick them up naturaly from a linked, indexed site.

FAST says they will but I have had better results through individual submission.

Alta Vista - submit each canonical.

I try for separate directory listings if my content is self contained. That's a whole other subject I suppose.

Inktomi - I submit each and each is treated as a separate domain so is charged the $30.00 price. Does anyone have other experience with this one?

Wisenut - I submit each.

Who else is there?

8:53 pm on Aug 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

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what about the oh-so-wonderful Yahoo......actually I don't think we can afford seperate submissions :(
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I've seen Yahoo take them and reject them. You really need to make sure that the canonical is self contained as in all the sub-directories under your canonical relate to the canonical and that the canonical can stand alone. Hubs and vortals have pretty good chances as do large corporate sites and Fortune 500 company sites.
9:28 pm on Aug 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Paynt, we sumbit Inktomi stuff thru positiontech and don't pay extra for each domain?

Is your experience thru the 'other lot'? If so change over NOW - you are leaking dollars!

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Thanks 4eyes, I was hoping to hear something along those lines. You have made my day :)
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a little late for me.....I just submitted the seperate domains.....bummer
10:11 pm on Aug 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Just to clarify this, for Yahoo submissions, if you have www.dinner.com with meat.dinner.com and potatoes.dinner.com, there would need to be three Yahoo Biz Express submissions made? Would that be a requirement or at the discretion of the site owner?

Assume that dinner.com has general content, and links to meat and potatoes, each of which has its own subdirectory sections - /lamb/, /veal/, /beef/ and /frenchfries/, /hashbrowns/ and /mashedpotatoes/.

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As long as there are links to the other sub-domains and sections, I would think that the one submission of the main domain would be enough. (the payments would get a little ridiculous!)
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If dinner.com was a commercial site, and wanted meat.dinner.com and potatoes.dinner.com to each have their own listings in different Business & Economy or Shopping & Services categories, I believe meat & potatoes would have to each pony up their own $200. (unless a very generous editor decided they overwhelmingly warranted 'bonus' free category listings...)
2:04 am on Aug 9, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I once submitted a portal with canonical sub domains on Yahoo.com. We paid for each sub and they even rejected a couple of ones because it did not match very well the categories they had. But it was worth it.
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Thanks, Macguru. I too have a themed canonical portal which is about ready to submit to Yahoo. Jumped in too eagerly at ODP and only got 3 of the 6 submitted although the results from that are beginning to show.
 

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