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Getting Started with Access Database

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Andrew Thomas

1:35 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Im looking into setting up a website for different businesses to advertise on. I will want a search facility so they can search by area, type of business etc.

The trouble is getting started, im not sure on what tables relationships to use for this. is there any place i can get sample databases/ ideas to get me started.

thanks

backus

1:48 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I wouldn't use Access for anything. I would recommend you take a look at MySQL.

Woz

2:09 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It depends on the size of the database, I use Access for smaller sites with no problems.

Andrew, I would suggest searching Google for "MS Access Examples" or "MS Access Links" or similar. You need to add in the MS to avoid confusion with "Entry Access Control" products and the likes.

Let me know how you go, if you have problems finding resources I will look through my bookmarks for you.

Onya
Woz

Andrew Thomas

2:15 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I dont have access to mysql, but i have access to SQL server, but have no experience.. so i want to use MS Access first just to get started.

Im using a reseller?

thanks

Andrew Thomas

2:16 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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thanks WOZ, i'll give it a try

Marcia

2:22 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>tables relationships to use for this

If you mean flatfile or relational, it sounds like you'll need relational.

Andrew, it's not only accessing the data in a database through a search, the results have to be written out onto pages. Do as Woz suggested, and also check into using MySQL with PHP - there are some out there specifically with that combination and you might be able to find something open source.

Woz, you use Acess with ASP, isn't that right?

Woz

2:36 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Woz, you use Acess with ASP, isn't that right?

Yep. I believe you could use PHP with Access but have no proof to back that up.

Also, I find that using some of the internal proccessing power of Access can speed things up. I see so many ASP solutions using Access as their database that do *everything* in the asp code itself. Whereas they could be speeding things up if they used internal queries to preprocess data before the asp gets hold of it. To my knowledge, MySQL cannot do this, although I could be wrong.

Andrew, if you have access to SQL Server then I assume you are/will be using ASP or ASP.net? If so then as you say, Access would make a good stepping stone.

But then, we are getting off topic, lets remember Andrew's request.

Onya
Woz

Andrew Thomas

4:11 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Woz, do you mind looking through ya bookmarks, I came on a bit of a blank and havent found much...

thanks

Im only starting off small but hope to get big, the problem is my reseller (who i have just joined up with) only supports MS Access and SQL Server. So is it realistic for me to start with ACCESS and migrate to SQL at a later date

thanks

topr8

4:42 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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with access 2000 there are some generic built in databases to use..

try building a new database like "contact management" using the wizard,
its not directly suited to you but it will build it with the tables and relationships required plus built in queries...

by looking at the db produced by the wizard gives a pretty good idea of the kind of relationships and queries you might need.

i've found the ms access users newsgroup very handy too.

sun818

5:36 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Access will migrate up to SQLServer easily. Free migration tools on the Microsoft site. I suggest going with Access for now since setting up SQLServer will cost money.

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brotherhood of LAN

7:40 pm on Apr 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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hey andrew

do you have "northwind.mdb" on your computer? :) thats a typical MS Access example. If you have frontpage, you can also check out the FP generated database results/editors that it can create

The mySQL suggestion is wise. Ive used MS stuff for about a year, and it takes you down the wrong road in regards to education, the MS road is a dead end ;) frontpage webbots / unwieldy access databases etc

but using access is easy, when you get to grips with it, itll take you no time :) I dunno about searches though, simply using SQL within access is one way to find data, but software dedicated to searching is another :)

Woz

2:34 am on Apr 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Andew, I'll sticky you.

One thing to remember is to use Access 97 for Web Stuff as it is faster than Access 2000. If you only have 2000 you can build your database and then convert to the 97 version before uploading. It does make a difference.

Onya
Woz

Andrew Thomas

8:17 am on Apr 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks everyone for all the help, and thanks woz for the sticky mail... I think i have enough info to get started now.....