Anyone use WebObjects?

[evinrude]

Hiya, was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with Apples WebObjects developement application and application server? Looks like I'll be learning this where I work, and so far I'm not impressed. However, it came highly recommended, soooo.... Just seems the created web applications are really really slow and the interface has proven buggy. Surely someone is havin' better luck with this app?

Any success stories?

[Brett_Tabke]

I figured this post would draw some quick replies because we have many Mac faithful power users for members. I think this is about the only time I can remember someone not having something appropriate to respond with to a post. If we don't know the answer, we can either find it, or point people in the right direction.

No one is using Apple Webobjects? I thought that was pretty popular...hmm sorry evinrude.

[WebGuerrilla]

The only experience I have with WO is from an SEO point of view. The combination of the cgi-bin, session id's and the bizarre file extensions it creates make it probably the worst app. I have come across when it comes to getting content indexed.

[evinrude]

True about the file extensions...but probably could have said the same about asp, jsp, and many others at some point. And I have to admit, for this set of pages, I'm not horribly worried about Search Engine placement. It's a rather small, and to be honest, captive audience. :)

Hmmmm...Apples site lists a bunch of "success stories" and links to sites designed around this application, but just doing their Guestbook tutorial was a test in anger management. *grin* The application failed to compile properly using a default install. I had to go to a custom install and select the optional gnu source code. Even then, the application just runs REALLLLLLY slow.

Mostly, I'm just wondering if I've just happened to get the one bum install out of however many good ones. :) I haven't really heard anything bad about the application before, so I'm rather supprised at what I'm seeing.

[mivox]

Personally evinrude, as a confirmed mac user, I've never used WebObjects. I could give a little speech about why, but it's kinda irrelevant.

However, my experience with Apple products leads me to think perhaps you did get "the one bum install out of however many good ones". Apple's own website uses WebObjects and seems to run smoothly and quickly... have you contacted Apple support? You have to be really persisitent to get results out of them, but after enough nagging, they'll usually come through.

[evinrude]

Thanks for the words, though I certainly wouldn't mind hearing the "irrelevent" reasons, 'cause at this point I'm wanting to hear anything. To kinda put it in perspective, I'll point out that this is the first Apple product I've used in ...hmmmmmm... maybe 3 years. I haven't touched a Mac since OS7.5 (our boss hates 'em, therefore....)

I've got the NT version of WebObjects 4.5, and trying to run it on Win2K, which, other then speed, seems to be working just fine now. I brought another copy home and installed it under NT4, and the thing works great out of the box, so I'm thinking I've narrowed it down to a Win2K or IIS5 thing. Now to learn how to use it for somethin' other then a guestbook. ;)