Netscape, frames, and graphics problems

[rwheelan]

Does anyone know why Netscape (4.0+) seems to display frames differently than Explorer? Netscape always seems to put a one pixel border around some frames and cuts of two or three pixels from others. This makes it impossible to properly join a two part image in two deferent frames. Pages that look perfect in Explorer are a pixel or two off in Netscape. I've even noticed that how you have your tool bars configured can effect the number of pixels displayed in a frame.

I'm sure my layout is correct, this has to be a bug in Netscape. As an example see www.mapspromotionalproducts.com/product_catalog.html (please note this is a work in progress). Any feedback would be appreciated.

[rcjordan]

welcome, rwheelan.

It's been a long time since I messed with this, but try

<FRAMESET ROWS="1,*" BORDER="0">

<FRAME SCROLLING="NO" NORESIZE MARGINHEIGHT="0" MARGINWIDTH="0" NAME="whatever">

or similar. I think that will kill the border in NS.

[rcjordan]

also, I put this in the BODY tag

TOPMARGIN=1
LEFTMARGIN=1
MARGINWIDTH=1
MARGINHEIGHT=1

I get a very similar look between IE and NS this way.

[tedster]

>>This makes it impossible to properly join a two part image in two deferent frames.

>I get a very similar look between IE and NS this way.

"Similar" is the operative word -- the best you can do is come close. Netscape is always a couple of pixels off from IE (and from what you would assume intuitively). If you're hoping to exactly fit two pieces of a complex image across two borderless frames, you will be frustrated.

When you do your own graphics, you have to find a way to accommodate this quirk with your design or re-design. I usually make sure that only flat areas of one color get interrupted by the seam of the two frames.

If you're working with a graphic artist who isn't very browser-savvy (my situation with one account), you gotta roll up your sleeves and do some education. With visual aids, or they often won't believe it.

It's one of Netscape's many dysfunctions. It still blows my mind that they did stuff like this, version after version.

[rwheelan]

Thanks for saving me from more aggravation. I'll just accept that Netscape sucks, and work around it as best I can.