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CJ payment for September

Where is the check?



2:27 am on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi all,

Around the 20th of this month, my earnings for August were locked and clubbed along with my locked earnings for June (extended for 1 month prior to being locked).

Normally, around the 25th, my payment status shows the check has been dispatched. But now my Payment status continues to show the last check that had been mailed two months ago. When I click on Run Reports, my earnings for September are shown separately and my earnings for August along with my locked earnings for June are shown under Current Balance (September 2005).

Shouldnt they have dispatched the check by now? Can anyone tell me if this means the check will be mailed this month or the next month? I know CJ has been having technical issues and I would be grateful if someone can advise me what to do.

Thanks and regards

A worried webmaster


3:38 am on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have been wondering the exact same thing. I wouldn't worry. No doubt the check is being tracked as closely as our leads and sales.


2:20 am on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Atomic. I cant help feeling worried because the month is about to end and my payment status still does not show any check being sent. I am beginning to think that either CJ has sent the check around the 25th which they normally do but the payment status has not yet been updated. Or worse CJ hasnt sent the check at all. None of the members here have bothered to post a reply about their status which leaves me completely in the dark.

Could anyone here please confirm if they have received a check from CJ this month?

A depressed webmaster


1:05 pm on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I got my check a couple days ago. It shows as sent on Sept. 19th


12:05 pm on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I got the shock of my life today when all my earnings clubbed under current balance (September 2005)now shows current balance (October 2005)! CJ didnt send my check for September and have now moved all my earnings under October. I have written to CJ demanding an explanation and it looks like I will have to remind them to send me the check for October!


3:35 am on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator skibum is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Apparently CJ extended credit to some merchants this past month or the merchants just didn't pay or are behind on payments or something like that.

CJ held back a rather significant chunk of what should have been paid in September (about 20% of my earnings). Unlike LinkShare, who shows the satus of merchant payments to LinkShare, CJ wouldn't say which merchants and doesn't seem to want to inform publishers what merchants do not have sufficient funds to meet current payment obligations.

Hopefully it was just a matter of some merchants accounting dept getting a check out late and CJ will return to its normal regualr and timely payments this month.


12:31 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello Skibum,

Many thanks for providing an explanation for the late check. I have emailed CJ twice asking for an explanation and its well past their 72 hour deadline for replying, but I havent received any reply yet.

I am wondering how so many advertisers could be late together. I got a sticky from a member saying that he is affliated to a different advertiser from mine.

I thought CJ usually collects money in advance from advertisers and manages payments by making payments to publishers on behalf of the advertisers.

Well, I am really really disgusted. My earnings have dropped like hell after the system updates and now this late payment. For heavens sake, is there no similar option to CJ?


12:53 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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2:11 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator skibum is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

It is doubtful that all, even any publishers lost 75% of their payouts due to anything CJ did. CJ gets paid when sales get rung up.

adnonsense - I was under the impression merchants have to maintain a credit balance with CJ as well, but maybe not.


6:47 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, theres a huge difference between earnings from April-May-June and now. The frustating thing is that my CTR is the same but I am not getting commissions for the leads that are being generated. I get around 20 leads a day and earlier I used to get paid for all leads. Now I get paid for 4-5 leads only. It never goes beyond 5 - like they have some restriction in place. All this began after CJ updated their system.

I once got a mail from CJ asking why there was such a huge difference between my clicks and leads. As if I should know!

CJ just replied to me about my September payment not being sent with a one liner: The next payment is scheduled for on or around October 20, 2005.

There is no smoke without fire and if publishers are shouting themselves hoarse about losing revenues, then there must be atleast some truth to it.


8:32 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't understand why so many CJ affiliates are taking this mess so quietly. We're moving all we can to other affiliate programs. Nothing has tracked right since their "update". We're losing too much money.


2:27 am on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ok Skibum was right. I got this email from CJ this morning.

As long as those Locked transactions are Closed at the time payments are created, these commissions will be included in your October payout. (Transactions are "Closed" once the money is taken from the advertisers account and put into the publishers account. If the advertiser does not have sufficient funds in their account to cover commissions owed, at the time the payments are created, then transactions remain in Locked status.)

I am looking at options. Skibum - you mentioned LinkShare. How is it as compared to CJ in terms of revenues, payment, conversion, etc? I would be grateful if you can fill me in.


4:48 am on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator skibum is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

I like the CJ system much better than LinkShare. That is probably in part cause payouts have been at all time highs since just prior to, during and after the upgrade at CJ and I find the CJ interface much easier to work in.

LinkShare has some great merchants, some great people working there, their payouts seem to be lower on average than CJ, they just went through their own mess with an upgrade. While, I can't speak for all affiliates, in some cases at least, they just didn't pay affiliates for about 2 months while they were making system changes. Those issues seem to be water under the bridge now. Obviously CJ has had some issues as well.

There are great programs at both networks. Every business has its seasonal cycles and business cycles. While there is certianly always the possibility of networks, indies or any affiliate tracking system not capturing all sales, we're looking at gas prices cutting into disposable income, the possibility of home owners tapping out thier equity lines, massive storms in the US and one could probably come up with some other things that might decrease consumer spending. The party isn't going to last forever.

The top of the US housing boom is here IMHO (just observations from one huge real estate client) and that may be showing in the number of mortgage/home equity/etc.. leads coming in. It may be time to start anticipating what to promote after the wannabe real estate investors and novice home buyers discover they've bitten off more than they can ever hope to afford to pay for.

Another thing to look at is who is going to be hit by higher gas prices and less disposable income. It is more likely to affect consumers who can normally spend $300 on a TV, can afford to buy a few books at Amazon each month, have a motorcycle and have to save for a little while to buy some parts to jazz it up a litle bit, don't want to spend no more than $1,000 on an engagement ring, buy a $25.00 WalMart handbag and not one from Prada that costs $500.00.

So what does that mean? Middle and lower income consumers are are going to feel the pinch of higher interest rates on their credit cards and the new higher minimum payments on some cards, high prices at the pump, the variable terms of thier ARMs expiring, resulting in higher housing payments.

On the other hand, there are a record number of millionaires in the US too. Chances are the consumers with $$$$$ at the high end of the market will still be buying and spending big bucks on luxury items. They'll be buying expensive gifts around the holidays, investing in upgrading their homes, buying big TVs, expensive shoes & handbags, jewelry, car and motorcycle parts, and lots of other things. There are really nice payout to be had when marketing to the affluent.


9:31 am on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You could make a good Economist! Yes, its very important to know how the nation is doing when you are trying to sell the consumers something. I think Ill try my hand at LinkShare if they do have a leads programme.


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