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Does anyone really make money?

Affiliates/Adsense etc

         

Iwrite

5:17 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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OK,

So you see all these affiliate programmes around - I did once sign up for one, but it never did anything at all, I now have adsense - but my website is not well used as yet. I wanted it to look good before I really promoted it, and it is very specialised.$4 in 6 months converted to £ is hardly going to break the bank!

So, tell me, has anyone on here ever made any money with these things APART from of course, the person who starts the affiliate programme, and Adsense/Google themselves?

Iwrite

dibbern2

6:04 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Why not do a little research instead of starting a redundant thread?

If you spend just one hour looking around this forum and the AdSense group, you'll find amazing answers.

Just do a little work -- it won't hurt.

whitenoise

8:56 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You will find all you need to know in the Adsense forum. It will really enlighten you!

thegreatpretender

9:27 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I just made $1000 last month with adsense, really.

Iwrite

10:03 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Interesting, people seem to be sure they make money from adsense. I will have a look at that forum - being new here, I am not au fait with all of them yet - this place seems huge.

Thank you for the two last replies!

bobster2

11:35 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Of course people make money. How else would the whole affiliate thing be supported!

Zygoot

12:39 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Many people make lots of money but it isn't a get rich quick thingie. It requires lots of work and patience.

thegreatpretender

2:59 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Aside from having to work hard, it takes money to make money on the internet.

jcoronella

3:44 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> it takes money to make money on the internet.

I disagree. There a couple of very well respected people here who started with just free advertising coupons for adwords.

Although, I guess they may have payed for the conference [pubcon.com] to get them, or maybe their employer did.

Atomic

3:59 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It takes some money to make money on the internet but not necessarily a lot. You either need your own computer or access to one, internet access and either cheap web hosting or a free blog. Web hosting is so cheap that you can get away with paying as little as $7 a month for decent hosting without database capabilities. Even then it's not that much more to add a database or multiple domains to an account.

I have several dozen site that average about $11/month in fees if you include domain registration. These sites make many, many times that $11 after hundreds of hours of hard work developing quality content. So I would say it takes hard work and dedication more than it takes money. Be willing to start slow and accept the fact that you won't see any profit for months. If you keep at it and pour yourself into the job you will start to see results and that can make you work even harder and the income increases and so on and so on...

thegreatpretender

4:39 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Those are true but you can make more if you spend more.
One example is traffic. relying only from search engines and link exchange is unpredictable so you have to buy advertisement to get visitors to your website.

Also since I am not a writer and my first language is not english I have to hire one to write for me so I can put contents on my website.

Atomic

4:48 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Absolutely. I buy traffic but you can start slow and save for when you are ready to go to that level. It requires a lot of patience but it can be done. Obviously you can make more if you spend more but making money does not require spending money.

Not only that but if you are just starting out you are bound to make mistakes and if you are spending a lot of money these mistakes can be costly.

mottebonk

8:42 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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> Although, I guess they may have payed for the conference to get them, or maybe their employer did.
<moderator>Edit: No self promotion please</moderator> :-)

Perfiliate

9:01 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As a part time affiliate it took an £8 domain name re directing to some free webspace ( still in use today ) to make £10 000 a month.

Where the real money was spent was in my time and effort to turn the free site into a money making enterprise.

£8 for £10k recurring and sustained - 3 years and counting and increase of 10% this year so far.

Making money on the internet ligitimally does not have to cost you more than a pub lunch if your prepared to think outside the box and put some hours in.

Mal

Rolozo

9:50 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Atomic :
can u plz elaborate these "mistakes".
We specially newbies will be very thankful to u.

walkman

9:59 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> it takes money to make money on the internet.
takes about average brain power and 3-4 times average patience. Money? You can easily start with $100. of course you can spend $1 million if you have it, but you can start really small

Atomic

10:11 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My biggest mistakes have been in peddling the wrong products or services on a site and AdWords blunders when I first started. Combining those two really cost me some as well. I think it takes time and practice to do well with PPC. Now I have fun watching competitors make the same mistakes I did.

I also have spent too much time on an idea that didn't pan out. Sometimes I think a person can be too patient. Thee's also not paying closer attention to the overall program and investigating all aspects of it. The commission might be great but tyheir landing page might be horrible and you might never get any sale. So what's the use? I'm sure there are more but those three are biggies.

skibum

12:34 am on Sep 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Making money on the internet ligitimally does not have to cost you more than a pub lunch if your prepared to think outside the box and put some hours in.

Yes. AdWords coupons help, hosting can be had a on a shoestring. The cost is time.

It's doesn't take any tech skills whatsoever if you just play the PPC game.

If you have no real tech skills outside of Dreamweaver and some basic HTML/style sheets & basic graphics and can write fairly well you can make quite a bit.

If you have the above skills, good tech skills and really GROK the net, you can really mint money.

If you don't have a good understanding of marketing and online buying habits and some basic math skills, you can start out with lots of cash, be the best programmer/designer/DB developer/ in the world and not make a cent.

On one of the past conference websites, it was mentioned that one of the speakers who made as much as $2,000,000 in one year. Another speaker at one of the conferences, said they paid more in taxes on affiliate marketing income than ever being paid at a job. You can bet there are lots of other people on this board making a few bucks a month to at least 5 figures a month; some working solo, others maybe small companies.

You usually have to work your a$$ off getting started unless you get lucky, you have to test all kinds of different things but after a while you find patterns in the way people buy, in the way they search, in the way search engines rank sites, in ways to squeeze the most out of PPC campaigns - 30%, 40% click through rates on money keywords that convert (you get the guts to be the top bidder on expensive keywords as an affiliate), which types of sites pull a CPM of hundreds of dollars and which ones are lucky to pull a $0.50 CPM.

Then there's AdSense. Lots of people make lots of money from that as well.

It may take a year or two to start the traffic rolling in which is one reason why it may seem unbelievable that people really do make money at this stuff. There are setbacks, sometimes expensive experimentation in PPC but if you really want to succeed and give it everything you've got you can make it work. A little luck is always good too.

This was published a while ago, but some things never change:

[searchengineworld.com...]

Iwrite

12:01 pm on Sep 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, I hope this told other newbies some stuff we need to know as well. I just looked at the webpage suggested in the topic above and it not only told me some things I am doing wrong, but confirmed I have some things right.

I don't know if it was connected to reading this site or not, and for me, the fact people read what I write is important, as I am a writer, but I found that the number of page views has shot up.

Nobody clicked on adsense adverts, but any self promotion ( which obviously, I can't do on here,) is great for me. I set up a blog to link, but as far as I can see the only person who has as yet seen the blog is me! What I noticed on the blogs was how many times people got messages from someone saying 'see my blog I sell..." I wonder if those guys ever make anything from that though, as my immediate reaction was to feel a bit annoyed - espescially when someone signed my guest book on my web site with a link to a motorcycle firm, and then posted a whole lot of other things they have to sell!

What I have decided to do, being the only person in my church who has any idea what to do at all, is to really work on that church website with all the info I have got here. It might be worth sigining us up for something to bring in revenue - though as yet, what is a thing to be researched for.

What you guys have convinced me of is that it is worth seeing what I can do.

Now, off to sort out free sites as I already pay for a hosted one.....Ok so the challenge for us newbies is can we post back here we have made more than £1000 in 2 years!

Of course, then we can write an ebook.........

Iwrite

skibum

6:15 am on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you can just setup a shopping mall type site, inform folks at the church that they can "donate" to the church by using the links on the shopping site when they purchase online, the church can do some easy fundraising if the congregation will use it.

GoldenHammer

7:37 am on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[Many people make lots of money but it isn't a get rich quick thingie. It requires lots of work and patience. ]

That is very true. There is no easy or quick money. It required hard work and patience. If that was easy and quick, then it would only last just for a short few days ... :)