Adsonar for US visitors only?

Terms require ads are not displayed outside US.

[robho]

Just received a account opening confirmation from Adsonar/Quigo. But one of the terms and conditions seems a little hard to fulfill:

(4.c.ii) Publisher will ... assure that substantially all of the impressions of Publisher Pages are to End Users located in the USA

Has anybody will a global site (in English) had any problems with this clause? The clause isn't even "most" it's "substantially all".

I have sites in English that are always written for a global audience. There are plenty of Canadian, Australian, UK etc visitors (and often below 75% US). I don't see any way to meet this requirement other than some sort of geo-ip selection before displaying Adsonar.

So, is anybody running Adsonar on sites which do not have an audience "substantially all" in the USA? Even for a US subject matter site, there are going to be some international visitors.

[AbsintheSyringe]

I just recieved my Adsonar information as well.

I dont think that's the way it really, I'm international publisher and I dont think this should represent a problem. Adsonar already has their "Geo-ip selection" so you'll get more $$$ for US visitors, and you'll get less $ for someone from Banana Republic, or wont get payed at all.

I think that's what they meant by that. I have a problem with TIN #, how did you get passed that one?

[Jenstar]

Quigo has a few odd clauses in their terms including that one, and the "Provide Quigo at least ten (10) days advance notice of any expected increase in average daily Queries above fifteen percent (15%) of the then current average Queries on all Publisher Pages;"

I would suspect the US visitor thing should be a non-ssue, unless you are serving primarily non-US visitors.

[robho]

I would suspect the US visitor thing should be a non-issue

Looking closer through their extremely dense clauses, I see I just have to make "reasonable efforts" to ensure impressions are "to End Users located in the USA".

Writing my sites with all words spelt in US English, on subjects which are not exclusively targetted to audiences elsewhere, seems a reasonable effort... However if they do have ads only for US visitors they're probably not going to work that well for me.

So I then agreed to the terms, but like AbsintheSyringe I got stuck on the tax number (non-US company). I've asked support about that (as mentioned in the help files).

I'll see how long the response takes, and what it is, before I bother setting up the ads. If it's a common enough problem to be in the help files they should have modified the form to cope with it.

[alvinfic]

I'm not from US and have been using Adsonar for a few months now. When I first opened my account, I've asked them about the TIN# too and was told to put in N/A for that section. So far no problems in getting my checks as far as the TIN# is concerned.

[AbsintheSyringe]

Yup, I asked for support regarding TIN no as well.

But if it works for you alvinfic, then it should work for me as well. At least until the give me some reponse.

Ads are already set up, and I must tell you they are working great for me. Previously I was using Clicksor and they were horrible.

Most of my visitors are from US, then it comes to EU. So I can clearly see that some clicks are paid extremely well, and some of them are just poor. Which obviously means that they dont pay non-US clicks as may the pay the US ones.

I guess this will work out for you, as long as you have over 50% of US visitors.

[robho]

At least until the give me some reponse.

I've done the same, set up the ads anyway while waiting for a response from support. I've also sent support another comment about the two errors in the ad code, it'll be interesting to see when/if I get any reply to either message.

I'm running the code for 50% of the impressions on one of my smaller sites to give it a direct comparison with Adsense that runs the other 50%. Not enough data yet to draw conclusions.

[alvinfic]

Based on my experience, Adsonar is quite bad with communications. Need to send them many emails and wait for a few weeks before they finally reply. And with the wrong response. :(

They used to respond fast when I first signed up with them a few months ago. But not now.