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I there any way I can define my own links? Create new link IDs and labels and then use the url parameter to point to the target page. So I can track products, or add positions or combinations of that, and improve CTR and conversion via split run testing.
Is this somehow possible in CJ?
The SID will show up in your transaction reports. If you also want to track EPC per product, you'll have to use your own click tracking script and match up the data to CJ's transaction reports.
The question is to seperate accounting. It's kinda stupid to let the merchants design the links, as I haven't seen a decent campaign yet. All of htem are so full of themselves that they think the mere mention of their websites name will make people wanna buy "stuff". In reallity people FIRST wanna buy "stuff" and THEN find the merchant through the affiliate. And more often then not the affiliate already has done the job of showing the visitor the particular product, just to deposit them on the front page of a huge mall for them to search for hte product again? Stupid.
I'll try the SIDs soon. In hte meantime I mix and match whatever links th emerchant made, and ALWAYS use?url= to target the right pages.
I used CJ links in AdWords and had 233 clicks and CJ recorded only 67. How is that possible?
Depending on your target demographic, you may run into many users who are unable to actually get past the link code.
What I mean by this, is that if they install Kazaa lite on their computer or certain other "spyware"(adware) blocking tools the links will not work. So they may be clicking on the links and nothing is showing up on their computer.
One way I bipass this is to use the ip address of qksrv.net, which is 184.108.40.206.
All of htem are so full of themselves that they think the mere mention of their websites name will make people wanna buy "stuff".
If you designed the ad you'd put it in text/editorial and your goal will be to get the visitor to click on it. You have no incentive to promote their site/product to those visitors who are NOT going to click on the ad.
However, the way they see it is that they'd like every visitor to see the ad AND THEIR LOGO whether such visitor is likely to click ... or not. That way they get some sales which they pay you a commission for and they get a lot of FREE "branding" assistance for all your visitors who keep seeing their logo but which they never pay you for ;-)
(But that's the nature of the CPC advertising beast)
That is very useful information, but can you please show someone who is not very "tech minded" an example of exactly what a link like that would look like?
You would go from
Make sure to test it at least once before you apply it to all of your links!
Wow, that sounds crazy to me!
As I understand CJ tracking, no sales will be tracked then.
When the user buys something, the merchant will probably show a tracking pixel from something like www.qksrv.net/track.bla?merchant=123&revenue=456&orderid=789
Now qksrv will look up if there is an affiliate cookie.. and tada! no affiliate-cookie send from the users browser, because 216.34... cookies will not be sent to qksrv. just like webmasterworld cookies will not be sent to yahoo or sumefin.
If the tracking is done on the merchants server, it would be different. But as I understand CJ, the tracking is done by qksrv.
The reason the image is used, is to track impressions of the ad.
I tend to push mostly through adwords and I do not use the image, just the url with the domain as the IP. My impressions are zero on cj, and my clicks(adwords, and CJ) match.
Well, there are images used to track impressions, but I was not referring to these.
So, lets try to figure it out without going into tech details... are you (or anyone here) making money by linking to 220.127.116.11? Would be interested to know. Because if that really happens, obviously CJ tracking works different then I thought.
If I did use CJ, I would be looking for a way to check the percentage of my site's visitors that can't click through to the merchants.
Sorry, email excerpts can't be posted.
The email basically said the links need to call qksrv.net to track, to not use the IP number.
So, it means the IP switch does not work and if concerned about our users using the "wrong" tools, we should educate them and offer the recommended tool instead.
[edited by: Drastic at 4:05 pm (utc) on Oct. 29, 2003]
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"slartythefirst 9:43 pm on Oct. 27, 2003 (utc -8)
I cannot even get to cj.com. I just get 404s. If I visit a site that has qksrv.net banners and images, all the images are missing. Some sites look like the owner accidentally deleted their images folder."
Chances are you either have Kazaa Lite, Norton firewall or Norton Internet security. They all block CJ. Norton is not just blocking CJ in the host file. It's blocking a bunch of other ways too. It blocks standard banner sizes and it blokcs images served by a 3rd party server that passes referrer info. So changing to CJ IP for this reason won't work anyway.
Your idea to fight back against the link hijackers seems plausible. However, there is one scenario that bothers me.
What would happen if CJ decided to stop using 18.104.22.168 and instead switched to a different server? If some webmaster had thousands of links on the web, it would be a major undertaking to revise them, not to mention the commissions that would be lost, while the changes were being implemented.
Given CJ's pending merger with BeFree, this scenario is certainly possible.
To put it in perspective, just look at how easily Google made the www-sj server vanish.
What would happen if CJ decided to stop using 22.214.171.124 and instead switched to a different server?
This was actually talked about in some of the other threads that I posted.
It would be easy enough to change your ads if you are doing PPC, but could be a real pain if you do it on site.
I guess I will be changing a few hundred links back this weekend... I wonder If I will notice an increase in conversions.