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The downside of Teoma I am seeing is that they are paid submission with crawling.
But are webmasters happy? People who are highly ranked on google are finding even better results with Teoma, was this their plan? Be higher ranked, plug their database into other engines and get webmasters to support them because hey my page and my clients page is higher. ;)
I see Teoma doing a Microsoft move, that is if you cant win, follow closely behind and shank the competitor in the leg to get the head lead.
I think personally that teoma have gone for the throat, they know that Google are weak in certain areas and have attacked them with the right hand side of the SERP's. It is a "shot to nothing" [a snooker term] they cannot fail to gain with it and Google are unable to respond without pushing their core results further down the screen. A master stroke imho.
On the other hand, Teoma is the best thing to happen for Google since the Yahoo deal. Nice, plausible competition without a serious threat at this point.
However, Google really has a ways to drop before there is a big openning. When Google came out, it was miles ahead of everyone, as a Google user I am used to being able to scan the top 5 results and get what I'm looking for. That is a huge step up from viewing multiple results to get an idea.
However, unless Google pulls an Altavista, I don't see Teoma getting more that a small portion of the search market, though that still might be enough to help Askjeeves out enough to stay afloat.
I personally wont pay much attention to teoma until I see it in my referrer logs
Not me. They didn't even get out of beta before they announced PFI, looking at the serps and the auto "drill down" features I see a lot of room to monetize that thing on a much broader scale very rapidly.
I'll just tell you how I see it; I think they will be able to drain an advertising account faster than overture if they get the proper press and reception. They won't get that from me.
They are not a "search" company like google, they are an advertising delivery company trying to look like a *real* search engine.
Their db is small for a reason, I don't believe their algo will work with the size of a google-like index, and what kinda peeves me is that everyone is buying into this whole "quality not quantity and paid includers are higher quality" nonsense.
If they put a nice check mark next to the paid guys, I might give them some credit for integrity.
Anyway, that's the way I see it; just remember that if you promote it, you might someday be forced to feed it (with your dollars).
Teoma has an openning... Google's update problems are making their index staler than usual.
I'm sorry, were you trying to imply that Teoma's index is fresher than Google's?
Here's the current top search result if you search Teoma for "Google":
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I think the new emperor has no clothes.
joined:Nov 11, 2000
So, as of now, I'd say they are going down the wrong path if they want to gain some of google's market.
Subject-Specific Popularity ranks a site based on the number of same-subject pages that reference it...Google, on the other hand, excells at finding words and phrases on a page, and then evaluates the popularity of the page. A site could have many different topics, one per page, and Google would still find relevant results, if the search term was definite where as Teoma would not.(I am thinking out loud here, please correct any of my observations)That is, Google teases out obscure content better than Teoma (witness googlewhacking, weblogs), where as Teoma refines the "pre-Google" hub, authority, home page model.
A company like Ask Jeeves who obviously couldn't create a relevant engine had to buy one, I think the management that has taken over will not fail to run this engine into the ground.
Will Teoma's spider follow links between web sites and index the new sites into their search results, or only index them for the data needed to calculate their version of "popularity"?
joined:July 21, 2000
Yes it does, but the best way in for free is via Yahoo and/or ODP.