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This is another classic example of getting into the db early really making a difference. Yet, this barrier to entry is very short sited of AJ.
Towards the end of last year I was getting almost as many visitors from Teoma / Ask / AskJeees as I was from all the Googles (.com, co.uk, etc).
Since the relaunch that has plummeted. I get one Teoma (etc) visitor for every eight from Google.
I like the new Teoma look, but may be my potential visitors just don't get it. That doesn't explain the Ask/Jeeves drop as they have not been made over.
Whilst this might be a fresh change from Google's dominance in the search engine world ( I am again beginning to think that all search engines are the same), the results are not as relevant.
Overloaded titles are given too high a priority, pages with a low text/graphics content are rated highly and even flagrant copyright violations! They can't do anything about that but it is annoying anyway and somehow I have never noticed those pages within Google.
The only page I would consider useful as a surfer comes in at #6, and my specific site, which has been around since 1999, is in DMOZ and which used to be #1 on Teoma's older results is nowhere to be found.
No, I am not impressed with Teoma's new database.
Just the index page and it is a very old.
The spider has been sniffing around some other pages over the last 2 months or more but just the index page (and old at that) gets in.
I am not very impressed, hopefully they get a bit fresher as time goes on.
> this barrier to entry is very short sited of AJ.
Agreed. The same goes for any other service that does not refresh. Surfers soon realise and vote with their mouse.
The web really needs fresh SERPs.
On top of this the data seems to be really old, more than 6 months I'd say.
We submitted this site to Ask Jeeves/Teoma back in March via ineedhits, so it's somewhat confusioning as to where they found these old pages?
askjeeves.co.uk is still showing results from espotting and direct hit.
Serps for me are all the place, 2-k-term are both up and down on the first page, 3-k-terms, i am happy with they seemed to have gravitated generally to the top of the SERPS, i'm still shocked the update has happened, hence will do allot more checking, to see exactly where sites stand.
... no way to fool that system without going out of your way.
joined:Sept 20, 2000
namniboose, you'll not beat them, they have too many contextual sites linking to them. Go hunting for *anything* maui that's halfway related to get links from. I can prove to you how it works with half a dozen sites linking. Another site only has a couple linking and it's right up there.
>They may update, but only if you pay them
No wiseinator, I had a site, unpaid, updated that only got changed around the 20th of April. Yet another was changed before then and it's still the old way. Neither one is paid, but I might pay for the one that hasn't been.
I mean, doesn't it seem strange to anyone else here that with all of the money that these search properties have at their disposal that they can't keep their indexes updated anywhere close to that of Google? How many millions of dollars would it take to make teoma competitive with Google in terms of qulaity and of results, and frequency of updates?
I'm always adding Maui links to my site - I presently have about 50 high-quality links from maui vacation rental pages!
I still need to check that the links have 'maui vacation rentals' in the link text but honestly, how many do I need?
Interestingly, these same sites were ones the owner PAID to have included. A query with "ineedhits.com" shows those sites still sitting quietly in the queue for inclusion.
So the additions are due to a Teoma crawl, not paid inclusion. The owner is a happy camper.