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How did you all you members (and lurkers ;)) find Webmaster World?
I honestly don't remember how I got here but I think I likely followed the link in Brett's profile from another discussion forums. When I joined it was a different looking board and there were only a handful of active members and maybe 8 forums to choose from. What difference today :)
1) Why were some of my sites ranking well when they were admittedly Neanderthal relative to the most current SEO techniques of that time? (Answer: Themes.)
2) Scripted submittal and maintenance (Collective).
3) Better referral tracking software (Traxis)
4) Figuring that PFP was going to overtake the entire industry, I was looking for all the up-and-coming engines.
So I guess you'd say I first came in while tracking down "themes" -I had read a post in another forum referencing Brett's article.
But many of us flip though numerous forums daily and move on, what did (then) SEW have that made it different? (This is hard to articulate) I didn't stay because of themes or scripts, there were alot of "next-level SEO" and "industry trends" questions being addressed here. As you said, the group was small, but there was a very definite been there, done that manner about the place. Because of the veteran status many had, there was also a prevailing cut-to-the-chase attitude that didn't promote endless whining or "the sky is falling" rants when some SE decided to tweak its algo.
joined:June 27, 2000
Roger that. I followed a post that Little (?) put about a "new tool" that Brett had on his site. I had been hitting a brick wall with some of the optimization I had been doing and this was the only place my question got answered, not ignored.
I honestly don't think I've ever spent more than 2 minutes at that "other place" I was just never able to follow it as well I guess.
I did some basic Flash intro's for a local "SEO" company. I never liked the dude but his money was green. Anyway I had never given seo a passing thought but I decided to use what I had seen this guy doing. So, upon "adapting" his metatags, I started to outrank his paying customers ( he was charging them $300 a month and all I did was copy his metas for the same results.) It dawned on me that he didn't really have a secret code developed by the same guy who invented nuclear submarines that only the search engines could see.(This is a true story-he really told people that)
Doggonnit if that derned secret code didn't give me away...if only I could have seen it. It seems that his legal department was monitoring the internet and picked up the fact that the secret code had been stolen and it appeared to be residing on one of my sites.
"We have a problem" is how I beleive the conversation started. During the course of the conversation over the hour, we discovered many truths about meta tag copyrights and how I was going to be sued. It seems there is a patent on the super secret disappearing computer code but when queried as to where I might view such a document it became clear that I had been outsmarted once again. The super-secret, disappearing computer code was safely tucked away in a category that no one would ever think to look for it in, alas, it was even guarded day and night by his brother-in-law who happened to work there in the US Patent Office.
What to do..what to do....I jumped on the net and started searching for search engine stuff and ended up at SEWa. Yes I dropped $70 and got the "insider" info and yes I feel really stupid now. But it opened the door for me into the world (or Black Hole) of seo.
So I promptly posted <!---> tags at the tops of my pages explaining the dangers of "companies that claim to have secret formulas" blah, blah, blah. There hasn't been any subsequent conversations with "MetaMan" or his "Legal Dept".:) heeheeeheehehaaahee
I have since learned that "MetaMan" was actually quite slick in his wording and the general public would never catch on. Whatever...he's the one who will answer for it one day. What he did was find a keyword phrase that sounds good but, in fact it never shows up, according to Wordtracker and the Brett tool. Of course he dominates that phrase.....ooooo I see now.
I wish "MetaMan" the best...he aint hurting my business none. I've gone on to bigger and better things. In the last six months I've come a long way. And since I've been reading this here forum, I is gittin' smarter 'n smarter. ;)
I beleive AIR gets the credit for me being here. I think from an email or something...don't honestly remember but I'm glad to hang out with ya'll.
Good 'nuff, rc?
Some time later, after having read and learned a lot, I stumbled upon WmW from Bretts profile over there. I put two and two together, realised that this is the best place for uptodate and professional information about SEs and Dirs, and havn't looked back.
joined:June 21, 2000
Then another coworker mentions this place, and when I got here, it blew me away. I started doing some free lance, and this became my new support group...I've tried to give as much as I get, but I know it's been one sided. I appreciate all the help I get, and in the back of my mind, I think maybe even by asking some of the questions I do, that it is helping somebody, because shouldn't we all be facing some of the same issues? The same annoying spiders?
The group here is amazing...and I appreciate all the contributors. In general, every time I post, I get great responses, and feel like on occasion, I've even helped a fellow or two.
I've looked at the other place a few times, but there really is no comparison. The cut to the chase comment by rcjordan was good, and I feel it fits very well.
I thought meself as the "AltaVista Guru", Any site, any word- to the top 5 was my motto, but as SEO would have it ANYONE who calles himself a "Guru" just anit fit for the world of SEO.
That being said when i returned in the top 3 results for the term "shampoos" on AV then i felt better about posting here...
The info i have picked up here has helped me get in the top 3 for many terms.. Things I learned here i cant get anywhere else... Hat's off to WmW... :) and thanks for the help..!!!
That (parent) board had somehow changed from an honest exchange of ideas to an ego contest where the truth was no longer the issue, but an "I'm-Right-And-You-Aren't" kind of place.
When it became obvious to me that the (parent) board was no longer a source of information, and when most of the knowledgeable people had fled, I spent all my time at the spinoff board.
When the spinoff began to suffer from a failure to thrive, a fellow admin pointed me here. :)
For the FULL story, read this thread: Why Is This Different? [webmasterworld.com]
>What can we do to make Webmaster World better?
How about a search facility that would display all relevant posts related to a keyword/topic from the Subject, Description and/or Post section of the entire forum.