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8:52 pm on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry for the slowness and site errors. WebmasterWorld is experiencing the heaviest traffic in its history.
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... and I thought it was just my rubbish connection...
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If I had the traffic of WW on my site looking for stuff I sell id be a millionare! :)

But I dont...and im not :(

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congrats on the traffic from me too...

good job!

11:39 pm on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For about an hour this afternoon I couldnt get on the site at all... when I could it took 6 minutes to load the recent posts page :(

Seems to be ok now though, a victim of its own popularity :)

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We're going to need more dilithium crystals.

Captain, she's at warp speed, she can't take anymore...

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Congrats and try to have some fun at the SES!
11:43 pm on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry Brett - Ill stop clicking on the recents post link every 5 seconds..... :)

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Brett,

Why dont you use more CSS on the pages, cut 20% off the code?

BB

11:58 pm on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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it could slingshot the server around the sun and backwards in time.

Could we swing it the other way, and perhaps get to the dance a little sooner?

Opps, sorry. Wrong word. :)

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brett,! this shows YES everyone logs on to webmaster world to find out what is going on! hats off to you!

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WebmasterWorld is experiencing the heaviest traffic in its history.

Well Brett, there have been a big change to webmasterworld over the last year, and personally I enjoy it less than I use to. There is too many posts that doesn't contribute in any way, and I am giving up on many large threads and probably loosing a lot of those valuable posts, hidden between all the "when will Google update", "my site went up", "mine too", "when will it happen" etc...etc... Sometimes it reminds me of "just another chat channel".
I am pretty sure you and your moderators could cut half of the posts away without anyone would miss a thing. Actually it would improve these forums.

Just my thoughts.

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MikeMike, we are facing a new situation. It's been building up constantly. This update, coming in late, and with Google being so dominant, actually blows everything we ever saw out of the water.
But then: this is a community site. As moderators we can try to steer a bit here and there, but overall members decide what goes and what doesn't.

One thing that goes a long way to get the best out of the board:
use the board also by the forums list. Thjere are so many forums here, which hold fantastic posts on all kinds of topics. I honestly think many people don't see that because they are so glued to the active list and to Google.

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Sorry Brett - Ill stop clicking on the recents post link every 5 seconds.....

Same here... :)

Well done though.

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Does you mean you have to spring for a dedicated server (or another if you have one already)?
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Hey, victim of your own success! I wish. Kudos from a person now becoming more involved in webmasterworld, but previously known as a lurker (aka traffic stat.)

You guys do an awesome job.

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no doubt dazz... i cannot fathom the restraint WW has in this regard. (i'm a big sell-out myself)
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Hi Brett,

If you know and would be so kind as to share, what are the
server specs of the box WebmasterWorld runs on? I'm wondering about stuff like the OS, CPU type and speed, amount of memory, type of hard drive(s), etc. Is WebmasterWorld on a dedicated box by itself or on a box with other domains?

I'm thinking knowing the kind of request per second and traffic WebmasterWorld's server can take (and it's specs) might be helpful for those deciding how beefy a server they need for their sites.

Plus, I'm a techie and wonder about such things. ;-)

Also, does anyone know what a webhost can do in the heat of the traffic surge to "rescue" a site like WebmasterWorld that gets a high load all at once?

Thanks and best wishes in all regards,

Louis

5:04 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks folks.

Next step is a load share system that is about
finished on the software side, but has to have glue logic put in depending on the server setup.

Why have I been reluctant to empliment it? Because it means server management 24x7. That is a major time consideration and would mean a full time tech oriented ($60k+) employee.

>css

Too many users with netscape and a surprising number of older users that use non-css ready browsers. CSS would cut 10-15% off the top end just because it's css. Regardless of what you've been told or believe, 10-15% of the world still doesn't like css and it doesn't work yet in this environment. It's close, but not there yet - too many usability issues. There's a crowd of people that don't appreciate the look of css - I'm one of them. (besides, it's not a bandwidth issue, it is a server load issue that external css would actualy make worse instead of better)

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Heh, I see that your images are being served by another site, showcase.netins.net

:) (yes, even the smiley)

4:45 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The problem is/was pretty simple. Look at the alexa daily traffic numbers. (114 page views, 178 avg - into an area that could only be classified as exciting and scary huge).
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what was the ratio member to lurkers during that period?
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So how many visitors/pageviews per day does WebmasterWorld get nowadays?
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Even right now at 3.38am im seeing slowness. Hey brett wanna hire me for 60k a year to monitor watch your server ;P
4:42 pm on Mar 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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about that time your time ew is when log files are processed - yeow.
4:31 am on Mar 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>A good way to stress test BestBBS

I've got most of the kinks worked out. The toughest part is dealing with the rogue bots. I've just about got all the major cable providers (havens for rogue bots) as required login now (sorry had to be done). I think the day is fast approaching when we will see all members as required login (not required subscription - just required login). That mandates a few smaller changes, but I just want everyone to be aware that it has been actively discussed with the high council for about a year. We are getting pretty close to that time.

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Brett, if required login is needed, how will that impact the ability of major search engines to spider the forum content?

WebmasterWorld is a thriving community and may not need search engine traffic to survive due to a loyal userbase. If BestBBS is rolled out to sites that need the pull from the search engines, will required login prevent a BestBBS user from generating SE traffic?

If a forum is smaller in size and/or just starting out, can the forum software afford to take the "hit" from the rogue spiders?

Bradley

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>to spider the forum content

Yes, at that point, we would declare my search engine addiction fully cured. It is the last threshold to cross.

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For BestBBS users, would it be an option for required login or not? It seems to me that one of the main competitive advantages of BestBBS is its ability to be spidered. For a smaller forum, they might need to take the spider hit in order to drive more SE traffic to their forum.

Bradley

P.S. Brett - sending you a Sticky.

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Maybe a similar setup as New York times has, if you reach them via Google you will be able to view the specific article, but as soon as you want to move on to another article you'll need to login.
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