Different DBs of Altavista

[oLeon]

As you can read in this thread [webmasterworld.com], there are different results in AV.com and the regional AVs.
I noticed that:
when I search in AV.com (an url-search) with "any language" I got other results as I get with the same search in AV.de (also an url-search). The same with a "german"-search, I got different results. I would say, that AV.com and AV.de (or AV.europe) donīt share their DBs, doesnīt matter where you search from.

BTW: I am sure about this because we have different pages for AV.com and for AV.de with differrent URLs.

[rencke]

I agree with that. Altavista.com has the global index, which contains only the top level of any international domain - unless it is extremely popular among people using Altavista.com (I have an example of that.)

Altavista.de would - normally - hold several levels of de-sites. The findings of Ted in the discussion you liked to above [webmasterworld.com] support that theory. But it does not seem to be a truly European index shared by all national Altavistas - but either separate db:s or filtered results from the same db. At least, that is what Ted's example in the other discussion seems to indicate. And you can be filtered out if you submit a national site to more than one national AV. Or....?

[oLeon]

rencke,
could you please explain what you mean with:
>>which contains only the top level of any international domain<<

[rencke]

The root directory as far as I can see. Have you seen anything deep spidered there?

[oLeon]

Yes, of course: our pages are all deep pages, within the third level (www.domain.de/bla/bla/file.htm).

BTW: deep spidered? no, just submitted, all of them (round about 5000). yeah, this time is gone with the new submit at AV.com...

[rencke]

I was referring to Altavista.com, which seems to hold only one or two pages from the root directory of international sites. They seem to be weeded out after a while and stuck into regional Altavistas. The matter has been brought up in the Altavista forum, for example here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

So, do I understand you right? If you submit page by page, you can get in there - even with a non-dotcom. But will you stay? And for how long?