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How often we should submit to DMOZ

We are not listed yet, we submitted some two months before

     
1:15 pm on Oct 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I have a site which is two months old and i submitted my site some two months back to dmoz. Now I donot know whether they have rejected us or not? One thing I know that they haven't accepted us yet.

We are a commercial site, does dmoz accept commercial sites? we have some 45 articles also, will this help?

What I want to ask is,
1)How will I know whether they have rejected us?
2)How often should I submit to dmoz to get listed?
3)Do a commercial site get a listing? If yes then what are the tricks.
4)How will I know the reason for not being accepted?

Thanks in advance

Aji

1:27 pm on Oct 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi AjiNIMC ...

How will I know whether they have rejected us

You can get a full update on the status of your submission by going to the DMOZ resource zone (just search for this in Google)

It's pointless resubmitting to DMOZ. This will just move you to the back of the queue again

We are a commercial site, does dmoz accept commercial sites

DMOZ accepts quality sites, commercial or not.

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The advice from storevalley is definately the way to go. I spent 6 months waiting for my ODP submission to appear and after getting fed up I checked in the Resource Zone forums. Apparently my submission was never received. Argh! All that waiting for nothing. It was probably the broken submission script that was at fault. In my experience the staff on the forums will get back to you very quickly on the state of your submission but do remember to exactly follow the posting instructions which are contained in a sticky on their forums.
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You can get a full update on the status of your submission by going to the DMOZ resource zone (just search for this in Google)

Sorry for asking this storevalley,

As I am new to this whole realm,what exactly is the above mentioned resource zone, I searched about it in the google. This seems to be another forum, I have applied for the membership but Is it advisable to ask such a question in the forum?

I have no Idea about this, just asking some stupid question, cann't I see my status with dmoz in any other way?

This will be of big help for me and after reading this I have decided not to resubmit my site.

Thanks a lot and looking forward for more valuable suggestions.

Aji

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This seems to be another forum, I have applied for the membership but Is it advisable to ask such a question in the forum?

Yes, it's fine ... the Resource Zone was set up to discuss DMOZ related issues. And the "Site Submission Status" forum is specifically for discussing ... well ... submission status :)

cann't I see my status with dmoz in any other way?

Resource Zone is the only sensible place to go for information about submission status.

Resource Zone seems to be having some technical difficulties at the moment (sigh), but if you hit "Enter the Forum" then "View recent messages ... Past 24 hours" you will see people asking about submission status (usually with a helpful answer or two from DMOZ's editors)

Normally, you would be able to visit this forum and post your status query.

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This seems to be another forum

You found it. Unless you are an editor, as far as I know that is the only way to find out the status of a site submission.

If a site is mentioned in the forums there, IMHO it will be scrutinized much more carefully than if it is not brought up there. The only time I'd personally ask about a site is it if was a brand new site and there was absolutely nothing about it that might be interpreted as trying to game the system, get an additional link, get a site listed that is similar to one already listed, and could not in some round about way be associated with another site or editor that did something to merit removal of a site or an editor, not even the slightest appearance of anything that might cause someone not to list it.

2 months is not all that long to wait if the site was submitted to a competitive commercial category. Newer submissions are supposed to rewrite old ones so it is likely that if the site is resubmitted that will move it to the back of the queue and take longer to get reviewed if the editor sorts and edits by date submitted. The way to find out, of course, is to ask about the status.

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>If a site is mentioned in the forums there, IMHO it will be scrutinized much more carefully than if it is not brought up there.

I'd say that is *very* unlikely. The people answering about submission status are typically metas and editalls that can see any unreviewed queue. Odds that they'll actually look at the site if they see it is in unreviewed are small. They'll leave that for the regular line editors.

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>It's pointless resubmitting to DMOZ. This will just move you to the back of the queue again

That's not how it works from what I've seen. And the way it does work is that it is worse than that. What happens is all the submissions end up in the queue. Meaning that some editor will have to delete all the duplicates. This is making more work for a volunteer editor. Who may not like this, and this could increase chances your site won't get added. Spamming is just bad strategy to try and increase chances of approval. I'd recommend submitting once, with a proper guidelines compliant title and description.

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The only time I'd personally ask about a site is it if was a brand new site and there was absolutely nothing about it that might be interpreted as trying to game the system, get an additional link, get a site listed that is similar to one already listed, and could not in some round about way be associated with another site or editor that did something to merit removal of a site or an editor, not even the slightest appearance of anything that might cause someone not to list it.

All sites that I submit are brand new, and play by the rules. If a site needed recategorizing, I might make an exception here. What's the point of playing games with DMOZ?

It's pointless resubmitting to DMOZ. This will just move you to the back of the queue again

Just reporting on some feedback from a DMOZ editor a while back. Perhaps we have some other DMOZ editors kicking around here that could clear this one up?

Spamming is just bad strategy to try and increase chances of approval. I'd recommend submitting once, with a proper guidelines compliant title and description

We definitely agree on this one though :)

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Resubmitting will just move you to the bottom of the unreviewed list. It's not exactly a queue, because they're not necessarily dealt with in any order. I believe the default is to have them set by date (I might be wrong), in which case, in a big list, it could delay your listing.

As has been said before, writing a guidelines-compliant description is a fine way of speeding the process up. If I go into a large queue, I'll typically first wipe out any spam and obvious dreck, and then deal with those that have good descriptions, before going on to those I have to rewrite completely. But it varies depending upon the editor.

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How the system is supposed to work is that a new submsision using the same URL as before overwrites the old one with a new submission date. Hence if the editor chooses to sort the queue by date (as opposed to url or title), you go to the bottom of the queue. This happens most of the time you resubmit the same URL.

What rfgdxm was getting at was that this doesn't always work and sometimes you will see an unreviewed queue with multiple listings of the same URL - in this case the duplicates are easily and quickly removed, not necessarily leaving the oldest of the duplicate submissions in place.

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Of course, if you submit your site over and over to -many different categories-, that WILL be extra work for the editors, who may react unfavorably as rfgdxm1 says.

If you submit multiply to one category, it will probably just slow down your review process. Or it may not have any effect at all. There's no way it can possibly help you, though. So you probably shouldn't waste your time.

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1:47 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's worth checking at the ODP public forum a couple of months after you submitted, just to check that your submission got through properly - if it did then there's absolutely no benefit in resubmitting.
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Hi,

Thanks for all your views and suggestions, the resource zone helped me to get my status. We registered on 16 aug and they rejected us on 19 aug, that time we had just started our site with only some 20 pages, no big good content.

But now we have some good content, this time I think we should get a listing.

Thanks

Aji

 

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