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Also, if they decide not to include my site, will I get notified?
It can be I've had sites in the past listed within 1 week others 6 mths it all depends on the editor
>if they decide not to include my site, will I get notified?
Again I think it's down to the editor, I've never had a site rejected
You are extremely unlikely to hear from an editor whether you are accepted or not.
To check if you site is there, don't just use the DMOZ search -- that often lags weeks behind. Drill down through the categories to the cat you submitted to. However, this won't find your site if it has been published in, or passed over to, a different category.
[edited by: Laisha at 4:26 pm (utc) on Feb. 17, 2003]
[edit reason] per charter [/edit]
Or, more likely the lack of an editor. I've reviewed submissions at the ODP that were over 2 years old. This had nothing to do with any editor intentionally deciding to ignore them. This was simply a case of a branch of the ODP with a shortage of (volunteer) editors.
As far as being notified of approval, there is no provision in the ODP software to do this. While it is possible some editors may do this manually, it is exceedingly unlikely. The ODP definitely doesn't particularly encourage this. It would make more sense to want ODP editors reviewing sites in the queue than e-mailing submitters.
:( No wonder people get frustrated with Dmoz
Sites are not always edited in date order - editors will typically throw out the spam and list the easy sites first. What's an easy site - well typically an authoritative resource, a root domain (not www.keyword1-keyword2-keyword3.com) rather than a deeplink, title is the title of the site plus a well-written, succinct, grammatically-correct and non-keyword-stuffed description without the title repeated.
Keyword-stuffed sites with limited content or that are unclear as to whether or not they are affiliate sites may be left in unreviewed by one editor until a more experienced editor comes along to make a decision. Alternatively the site may have been submitted to the wrong category and the editor forwards it to a very long misplaced unreviewed queue elsewhere for a more experienced editor to put it in the correct unreviewed queue. That's typically when sites are in unreviewed for a very long time. Otherwise it might be a directory backwater. Different editors edit at different speeds and have different criteria for inclusion/deletion/keeping in unreviewed for later. That's the nature of the beast.
Which in most cases usually means shorter queues and wait times than commercial areas. Commercial cats tend to get a lot of spam submissions. Not only does this slow editors down trying to review them, finding editors who are willing to volunteer to do so often isn't easy. I think the reason that I was finding such old greens was these cats were something like 4 levels down from the top level cat, and there were no editors in between all the way up to the top. There is no way that these top level editors can know where the oldest greens are in their branch, short of checking every last cat in it. It just so happened that in this neck of the woods at the ODP nobody had looked in for a long time.
But, how do I know if there's no editor for the category? Maybe _that's_ why its been sitting there so long. Is there anything else that can be done to push the site through? Any other contacts?
Look at the bottom of the section you are submitting
It will also tell you at the bottom of the page when that category was last edited
Also, how long must an editor let a site sit in the unreviewed queue before it becomes a problem?
I'm thinking about a category where sites do get added on a reasonably regular basis. Many of the recent adds have a bit of a political slant to them. Which is fine; you find sites as you visit them and your personal taste takes you where it will. Unfortunately, mine slants in the opposite direction and my site just never seems to make it into the directory.
I am very hesitant to use the word "abuse" because I know I have an extremely limited view of the big picture: the editor's other cats, the number of current unreviewed sites, and so forth. Maybe "selective neglect" would be a better term. Or am I just impatient and paranoid?
I asked about mine and got a response in something like 10 minutes.
[edited by: Laisha at 6:46 am (utc) on Feb. 28, 2003]
[edit reason] Delinkified. See Charter. [/edit]
The category for which I submitted my site isn't allowing any more editors, so I signed up for another, parallel category. I'm hoping that as my karma goes up for editing, I can move up the list, and maybe start editing the categor I do care about.
Still, I'd like to know from someone (like you would), if it's ok to ask a high-up editor to take a look at your category. If anyone knows, please post.
there are some ways you could make it faster:
1) go to the resource-zone-forum and ask for your status
2) contact the editor in a very nice way and ask why your site hasn't been added,- most editors will give you at least a short answer
3) if the editor doesn't give you a response after 5-7 days, then go one category higher and ask another editor
most editors at odp are really nice people :-)
(this is at least true for the german part of the directory)
I checked the status already, and was told I was in the que with a dozen other sites, so I think my branch is just neglcted since it's so specific. I'll try your suggestion though!
Will they notify you! Are you crazy? Get an email from one the gods! Never! It would of course be a clever idea to notify people as 90% of all inquiries at the resource zone want to know what ever happened to their submission! If they saved all the time it takes dealing with those inquiries they could then invest it in dealing with new submissions!
Most cats don't even have an editor
Can you supply a source for this statistic, please?
Most cat don't have a *named* editor, but all cats have an editor responsible for them somewhere. There are about 5,000 *active* editors looking after 460,000 categories. Some parts of the directory are well looked after, others neglected because of the sheer scale of the thing.
There *are* *some* unreviewed sites from 1999 in there. Or you could get your site reviewed and added the same day.
Some categories sit around with less than 1% unreviewed sites. Some have far more unreviewed sites than listed ones.
Yes I can. My eyes! Quickly select 10 different cats and drill down to see how few editors there are!
If I edit Widgets my name does not propagate down to Widgets/Internal or Widgets/Mass_Destruction. These categories do have an editor -- me -- and I may even have created them. But they don't carry my name.
It's misleading true, but that's the way it is.
Let your eyes drift up to Dynamoo who makes the same point.
