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DMOZ won't add my sites to its directory. Sites submitted a month ago still have not been added to the directory.
Here's the background:
1.A month ago, when submitting a clients site to DMOZ, I got a message saying that the submission could not be fulfilled because DMOZ could not read my IP address. Looking at previous sites that I had submitted, I noticed that within the last 6 months none have got in (I know I should have noticed this before). I wander whether this problem has been continuing for a while and DMOZ only now got a message up to let us know.
2.To compensate, I submitted all the sites from another IP address. The submissions went smoothly but now, a month later, not a single site is in the DMOZ directory.
Advice on this matter would be gratefully received.
Thanks
SJ
if the more senior editor keeps doing all the edits then the junior editor won't ever progress.
I believe that category editing permissions are not an indication of seniority. It's quite possible for an editor in a lower category to be the "senior" editor.
An editor is only going to "progress" if they are self motivated and have the time to devote to their editing.
I don't see where putting a single site review off for weeks is helping the directory or another editor.
The submission turnaround is getting better with new initiatives at the directory, but I know I've had a couple of submissions sitting around for almost a year. Most get processed within a few weeks though.
Unless DMoz put some fail-safe ideas into place to stop this practice, they could be open to being sued by a company who is losing money because of this.
No they couldn't. Any judge would laugh you out of his/her courtroom if you tried. That's if you could find an attorney stupid enough to think he could go against the full might of the AOL legal department and win.
If you see abuse report it to a couple of meta editors [dmoz.org] - it will be taken care of.
I don't see where putting a single site review off for weeks is helping the directory or another editor.
You always want to give new editors a chance to edit in their categories, so usually if there isn't a large queue a more senior editor will give a new editor some latitude. A couple of weeks is overdoing it IMHO, however.
If you see abuse report it to a couple of meta editors - it will be taken care of.
Yup, that's the way to go about it. They will not always agree with your interpretation of events, but I have found that in a reasonable number of cases, where I have reported abuse, that it has been acted on.
As a matter of interest can anyone give us some idea of the number of abuse reports that are handled by DMOZ, I have never been sure whether I have been a voice crying in the wilderness or not.
So for example if you wanted to send me an email, my ODP usename being apeuro, you would use the following link http:*//dmoz.org/profiles/apeuro.html . Alternatively, you could do a Google search on the meta's username - it almost invariably is the first result.
[edited by: Laisha at 5:39 am (utc) on Jan. 1, 2003]
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Let me put it this way - you're not the lone voice in the wilderness, but we could sure use a full choir.
You never know, all the abuse reports may come from me under different aliases :)
Anyway, I do my bit to encourage others to file well researched abuse reports
Otherwise "Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?"
Right. Because I usually log in every day, odds are I'd always spot an unreviewed before a lower level editor did. If I always dealt with them as soon as I saw them, they'd never get a chance to edit. Thus, it is appropriate to give the lower editors a reasonable amount of time to hopefully log in, spot the unreviewed, and handle it. However, there has to be some point when an unreviewed has been ignored long enough that I have to act. Otherwise, if that lower editor never logged in again for whatever reason, that site would languish in unrevieweds forever.
>I believe that category editing permissions are not an indication of seniority. It's quite possible for an editor in a lower category to be the "senior" editor.
Correct. The proper term here should be "superior" editor. I believe that all the editors in the cats under mine have been with the ODP longer than I have. However, because I am the editor of a category higher up the tree than theirs, this gives me editing privs in their cats also. As a matter of policy, it is best for superior editors not to mess around with lower editors cats, unless it is a case like handling unrevieweds that have been ignored for an inordinately long time, or alternatively something trivial like spotting an obvious typo in one of their cats and correcting it.
Definitely do your research first to make sure that you have a good case. Abuse charges are very serious, and thus evidence is needed.
Incorrect. Basically, a DMOZ editor can add any site to the directory he wants so long as it fits the cat. The only real absolute rules are those that prohibit anything that would be abuse. There is no need to specifically justify additions. Heck, some of the cats seem so trivial that it is almost impossible not to justify adding a site. Do you know the DMOZ has a category for personal pages of cannabis smokers? If some pot toker puts up a page saying how much he enjoys it, doesn't that meet the charter of "Pages created by individuals that contain cannabis info and photo's."? Now, there are much more serious categories at the DMOZ where quality should be an issue. However, the cat like that personal pages of cannabis smokers doesn't seem to set a very high standard for inclusion.
I would guess they had a pretty "high" standard.
Personal Homepages is a very scary place to edit.
The proper term here should be "superior" editor.
;)
We permit more than one editor to a category, particularly when the category is mismanaged or in need of help.
Added Dec last year, don't think it took long
to be added:
Computers: Security: Internet: Privacy
Submitted about a week ago, added about 9am today:
Computers: Internet: Protocols: DNS: Web Tools
Have another but just deside what cat to submit to...
GeorgeGG
First referrer:
Sat, Dec 21, 2002 - 10:41:45 AM
:)
GeorgeGG
Just to update. I took your advice and contacted a meta editor.
Unfortunately, he never bothered to even acknowledge my contact with him or do anything about my report.
I ain't going to give up though.
Try Resource Zone - go to the section under "abuse" and give an outline (they do not like you listing the details) of your abuse complaint.
It may get a response (on the other hand it may get deleted :( )
[edited by: Laisha at 5:35 am (utc) on Jan. 1, 2003]
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>> I ain't going to give up though.
please don't email several meta editors at the same time. A couple of us is usually enough to be sure that the issue will be looked into, even if you don't get a reply straight away (some investigations may take time -- we usually try to figure out the whole problem/picture and not just solve the particular one pointed out).
In any case, feel free to PM me and I will be pleased to look into this issue. Be sure to include as many details as you can.
