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3:18 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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New search engine WiseNut officially launched today sporting a new look and much faster results than the beta:
www.WiseNut.com [wisenut.com]
3:28 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Oohh.. the colour scheme hurts! Not the best for usability or stickyness IMO
3:36 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I do not think that the white text on red is the ideal use of colour.
3:37 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Best of luck chaps!
3:43 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)



i'm ranking well so i'm keeping my fingers crossed...

good luck wisenut !!!

3:48 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Whoo hoo!

Yeah, I am hurting after seeing the new look too :(
Please Wisenut, change the look!

But on the good side, we rank well! <more crossed fingers>

3:52 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Wisenut robot has visited my site 4 days in a row, gets robots.txt and goes away.
Almost like inkīs Slurp...
3:57 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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The new "Sneak a peek" feature appears to be IE only compatable. (no go in Opera, Netscape 6, or Mozilla). It looks very 'fixable' - not sure what it is in the js that is problem.
4:18 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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With 1,495m vs Google's 1,610m pages that's a pretty comparable database - good luck.
4:22 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>With 1,495m vs Google's 1,610m pages
erm
has anyone counted?...
Itīs a nice coincidence having Google rushing from 1,3 to 1,6 on the very day wisenut walks out of the shadow with some 1,4m
4:41 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)



Wisenut, according to their privacy policy and confirmed by my experiments, does NOT set a cookie unless you choose to set user preferences on their site. The most they do is to track your URL for purposes of fine-tuning their interface (which means that if you are using something like AOL or other dynamic IP, they are a good distance from personally-identifiable information). They will not even disclose this info without a court order.

Google, on the other hand, sets a cookie with a unique ID number in it as soon as you land on their site, before you even enter a search term. This cookie expires in year 2038. It's fetched by Google with every transaction -- searches, toolbar reporting, etc.

Three cheers for Wisenut! Google has never offered an explanation for their immortal cookies. A search engine as important and far-reaching as Google ought to have cookies that expire two months hence, by overwriting the cookie with a new expiration date with every visit. And that's only if they can justify the need for cookies at all.

4:59 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>With 1,495m vs Google's 1,610m pages
I've had a couple hundred thousand page requests from them, which is inline with google.
5:01 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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But isn't the main topic here whether or not submitting to Wisenut will do any good. Apparently the Google/addurl is a complete fiction. It does absolutely no good to submit a URL to Google. Does Wisenut expect to find its new URLs by just crawling as Google does?
5:23 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I have to admit that big_red_bar is ugly. Keep it simple, and clean - who cares if people say it looks too much like google. Google wasn't the first to have a simple web interface, back in the day infoseek was nice and clean.
5:24 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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WiseNut has 880 million pages online out of 1.4x billion crawled. They then remove dupes and "fluff" down to 880million. This is very similar to the "new math" numbers spouted by Fast and Google.

Yes, submitting to WiseNut will do good. Whether the page is kept after filtering is different story. It's still best, to just let the system work and link to your new pages and sites from the old one.

5:54 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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i wish them luck but think they are returning pretty bad results.

check out a search for credit cards. not too relevant.

6:05 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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We did not submit, but are in. Strangely we rank much better than in Google for our main keywords, but much worse for the secondary keywords. Seems like they are a more radical version of Google.

White on red is UGLY, why not to stick to simple black on white, which is still the most readable text on computer monitors.

6:05 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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The searches are taking a very long time for me right now, anyone else?
6:10 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Ditto
6:17 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, same here. I guess we are hitting them hard. It looks like their system is setup to cache popular searches, but the obscure search is timing out.
6:24 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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They have to be getting mass traffic at the moment. They must have reset something as things appear ok now. I think the results are very good - better than most se's on the net imho. The red is there to try pump the WiseGuide results I think. They just got the fonts too small for that color combo - very hard for me to read.
8:00 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Looks good so far. I submitted to them just last week after seeing something here on them. Results aren't too bad for me, here's hoping the referrals start coming in. I agree it looks/feels similar to Google. Nice to see something new on a grand scale such as this. Very refreshing. Now it'll ( perhaps ) be the new up and coming favorite for a while, then it'll start to charge for listings and we'll have to go look for something else.
9:27 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Does that mascot remind anybody of Jeeves?
9:39 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)



I am ranking well but many of the searches I've done are returning pages that are obvious spam. On the whole better than most engines.

The categories color combo give me a headache. :(

12:11 am on Sep 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Is it possible to search Wisenut for links to a specific page? Or for pages in a specific domain? I can't seem to figure out the correct syntax for doing that.
5:51 am on Sep 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>>Is it possible to search Wisenut for links to a specific page?<<

If you set search preferences and choose "don't group pages," you'll get individual pages rather than just domains in your results.

6:42 am on Sep 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

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People here keep saying its similar to Google. But Google doesn't really accept any URL added to addurl and Google takes more than a month to show results for anything its spidered. So I don't see a similarity if people here are saying they submitted to Wisenut last week and can now see results. That is not similar to Google unless you mean Google three years ago.
6:55 am on Sep 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>similar to Google

Edward, when people are making reference to a similarity, I don't believe it's the submission and inclusion scheduling that's being referred to, but rather the other features that are similar. For instance, note how the descriptions are put together, and the weight given to page titles and keyword groupings.

6:59 pm on Sep 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Cool! My sites are all over the 1st page results. Seems like sites that do good in other engines get a free ride over here on WiseNut.
8:35 pm on Sep 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

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WiseNut has changed the color pattern on their results page -- dropping red and inserting reversed black. Guess they were listening. Engine works great!
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