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[a9.com...]
It's Google, Alexa, and Amazon rolled into one. And yes, it does potentially raise some interesting privacy issues. But they give you a way out if you don't want to have your Amazon account associated with A9: generic.a9.com [generic.a9.com]. Of course, you lose the A9 features....
They really need to change the color scheme. It's killing my eyes.
Next!
He is a very capable person who can bridge both the tech and business worlds. He developed one of the very first internet search engines (GLIMPSE). His job at Yahoo involved circulating among all the departments making sure that work in one could be put to advanatage in another.
I would expect that as A9 develops, new factors will be added to the rankings and the SERPs will diverge from standard Google. I also expect to see a lot more features come on line.
Why do they have sponsored results from Google when I do a search for certain familiar keyword searches? But nice though that I'm ontop almost similiar to Google's ranking.
It is Google Adwords and Google results but looking like thoses results are enhanced by the Alexa data they get from their toolbar use!?!
Like the query that make some wave this week, the site is not there on the first page of A9 but it is still there on 4e position on Google.
If the A9 toolbar and Alexa got more and more metric, in a short/medium period of time A9 can been the next buzz.
Did you A-NineIt! ;-)
Need Clarify
Will install a9 toolbar help improve alexa ranking at the same time too?
It's just warmed over smae old Google and some book search stuff. Rehash of a rehash.
If you only look at the surface, perhaps. But there's a lot under the engine when you think about them archiving your past searches, your past clicks, etc. in terms of aiding search-based memory. At minimum, it's just the convenience of re-searching on a term you searched on a month ago and instantly being able to see that site you went to for the product or information you wanted. But the possibilities go well beyond that into each user developing a search profile the more they use it ... and the more your profile develops, the smarter Amazon can be in giving you the search you want. This is competition for G's Personalized Search -- Amazon already knows a ton about me, now let them start using it to customize my searching.
And that doesn't even begin to go into the integration of search and commerce here. Isn't that what G wants to do, essentially, with Froogle? Here comes Amazon, and they take it to a new level -- they don't point you to web sites where the product can be bought a la Froogle, they sell it to you themselves! It's just books now, but surely that limitation won't be around too long.
Google mission: "Organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful."
Amazon mission: "Allow people to find and buy anything on the Internet."
I kinda think this A9.com is where those two mission statements start to converge. Question is -- how does Google like having its results used and enhanced like this? Is this that point where the partnership turns into a competition?
Those sidebars are quite similar to IE for Mac.
"I cannot promise not to take the P*SS out of whichever poor s*d gets detailed by their PR dept to come on these forums and answer questions and field comments etc as "Amazon Guy" or girl ..whilst not "being in the PR dept" .."
Sorry it's stronger than me ...
But I just can't promise not to ...
"Amazon guy" ....dont ya just luv it!
( maybe the idea just cracks up Europeans? :))
As I interpret some queries in A9, the results seem to be mainly by Google *but already* enhanced by the Alexa data.
If my assertion is true, it will be very hard to fool A9. The Alexa toolbar can't be fool by linking stategies like Spamming all the comments box in blog or having multiple mirrors of the same site with heavily linking to fool the PR of Google. The metric collected by Alexa Toolbar and the new A9 toolbar can bypass thoses spammy linking campaign use more and more people!
Plus all the data collect in Amazon cookies plus the history of people using A9, it can be the next killer SE!
What do you think of my speculation?
Nay worries.
Course - Google has it's ads on it, so they don't mind if it starts getting popular. And if A9 starts to get too big? Google pulls their data away, and kaput.
Yes, I also think about the pulling the plug, but a contract have to go to the end of it. I would like to know for who many years this parternships is? Also Amazon and Alexa use Google for long.
Plus the fact Amazon have a bright guy in there.
Even Google buy is name to display ad for recruiting : [google.com...]
And If Google pull the plug, it is not so long to put up your own technology. Yahoo! crawl the web in less than a month to put YST online.
It says on the Homepage that "Search results enhanced by Google. Results also provided by A9.com, Alexa, and Amazon.com" but is looks like it is only a susb set of Google results.
www.a9.com
DaveN
But where are the SERPS coming from?
just alexa
Now all of a sudden the problems with Alexa's data become more important.
I think it is telling that Amazon setup a new enterprise for their search engine instead of giving it to the clowns over at Alexa.
[edited by: figment88 at 3:09 pm (utc) on April 15, 2004]
Was just surprised to see the information being returned on the SERPs.
Comments: Need livelier colors and get a bunch of privacy lawyers.
Like the froogle competition though.
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If that is the tendency, companies that have real $ - MSN, Yahoo! and now Amazon - can be a serious competition to G (have you looked at your AdWords referres lately - mine are mostly useless traffic). And when A9.com is popular enough, all it takes to dump Google in someone else's favor...
Is this downward tendency why Wall Street folks decided that it is not the time for G to be a public company? And these guys don't take stuff for granted, they do serious research.
I sent a link to a couple of friends that are just regular internet users, and they all liked A9.com. I know, not much of a market research ;)
But seriously, aren't there already enough search engines that use Google result? Hmmm, maybe I should write one this weekend. I'll call it, JustAnotherGoogleSearch.com.
Cheers!
The relationship between Google and Amazon has been a mystery to many. Google search is on Amazon, for example. Why? Does Amazon get paid for that by Google? I'm told no. Generally, the top executives at both operations get a long well and both understand that the Internet is evolving. They're learning from one another. Still, Froggle and Amazon; A9 and Google. They look similar to me.
A9 supports a very simple search URL style; for example: a9.com/myquery
According to their robots.txt, such URLs are indexable by SEs. These URLs are result pages, which include the "Site Info" links. These links point to pages on amazon which are ALSO indexable by crawlers, according to amazon's robots.txt. Thus links to an A9 search for a domain will consequently result in full DNS contact info being crawled and indexed by other SEs in no time.
I can't begin to imagine how many unhappy domain owners are going to be upset to discover a domain they registered appearing in results when someone searches for their name on Google or Yahoo. I know I for one have one or two domains I wish I hadn't registered.
I predict a huge increase in falsified DNS registration information if this functionality isn't suppressed pretty quickly...
