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Firefox goes 0.9 final

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8:07 am on Jun 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Happened just as I was watching!
Firefox 0.9 final:
[ftp.mozilla.org...]

also see upgrade info/tips [forums.mozillazine.org]

9:56 am on June 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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MozBackup was nice, thanks for the tip.

One of the last but not least things that would make me feel completely comfortable in Firefox would be a way to ghost/hide my less used bookmarks automagically like IE can do with favorites. I know that GO is supposed to function somewhat like that but its not as intelligent. At this point I have hundreds if not thousands of bookmarks and such a feature sure would help. Any thoughts?

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All's cool.

I just installed it and it automatically got my favourites and settings from 0.8 during installation.

All updated now.

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One of the last but not least things that would make me feel completely comfortable in Firefox would be a way to ghost/hide my less used bookmarks automagically like IE can do with favorites. I know that GO is supposed to function somewhat like that but its not as intelligent. At this point I have hundreds if not thousands of bookmarks and such a feature sure would help. Any thoughts?

How many bookmarks do you use regularly? You can re-order your bookmarks and their folders any way you like, so you could just manually position the ones you use most at the top of the list.

Also, are you aware that you can add "keywords" to bookmarks? For instance, my keyword for WebmasterWorld is "web". Typing "web" in the address bar and hitting enter brings me right here. To add keywords to bookmarks, just open your Bookmarks sidebar, right-click a bookmark and choose Properties, then fill in the Keyword field.

I hardly ever use my Bookmarks menu anymore; keywords have all but replaced the menu for me! ;)

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I hardly ever use my Bookmarks menu anymore; keywords have all but replaced the menu for me!

Yes, keywords are way cool!

Glad that my instructions on getting the spell checker to work helped some of you.

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Is it my imagination, or have I really lost the "Save link to disk" option on the right-click menu? I used to find it very useful, as it would automatically download the file to my downloads folder without asking any questions, and would handle filename clashes by itself...
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While "keywords" are a nice feature, I think an important part of winning over more and more IE users is to mimic it's abilities that are worthy. Hiding less used bookmarks automagically is still on my list of desires, no such extension found :(

Can you imagine a day where Mozilla holds even one fourth of the market? Making it work like users old browser rather than forcing them to learn new working habits will be key.

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I wish they would have an option to organize extensions by most frequently downloaded.
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nevermind I found one :) oh happy day.

[update.mozilla.org...]

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It doesn't seem to have an option to use alternate style sheets. Or am I missing something?
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download the webdeveloper tool bar, install it, then click on the CSS item, you'll see an option to select user stylesheets there.

Firefox decided against putting in all the options people might want, to keep it simple, opting instead to let users select which features they want as extensions.

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How do you mean "alternative stylesheets"? If you mean pages where more than one stylesheet is included, there's a theme-switcher button at the lower left of the status bar when more than one stylesheet is present. If you mean user stylesheets, you can do what isitreal suggests (or create a userContent.css file).
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Oh, that's right, I forgot about the default user stylesheet option.

In W2K - XP there is a file called: userContent-example.css

You'll find that in the folder:
[assuming your os is on your c partition]
c:/documents and settings/your user name/Application Data/Firefox/Profiles/default(if you didn't make a custom profile)/[somecharacters]/chrome

Just make your user stylesheet, save it to that folder, name it userContent.css and Firefox will use that CSS to override page styles. I use that to set paragraph widths to 38em, gets rid of those aweful fullscreen width paragraphs that are totally unreadable.

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Not alternative style sheets - alternate style sheets [alustapart.com]. (Replace "lust" in the link with "list")
12:09 am on June 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I finally did it..I had a really difficult time of "really" using Opera or Mozilla in the past ..but with this release of Firefox ..I simply went ahead of said "OK..make Firefox default browser " ..

No withdrawl symptoms from IE at all... I still go into IE a few times a day... but for the past 2 weeks ..90% Firefox

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Not alternative style sheets - alternate style sheets.

That's what I meant too, though I used the wrong term. ;) Isn't the stylesheet switcher showing in the status bar for you?

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No withdrawl symptoms from IE at all... I still go into IE a few times a day... but for the past 2 weeks ..90% Firefox

In case you need more reasons to make that 90% go all the way to 100%, read this thread on the latest IE vulnerabilities [webmasterworld.com].

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I use IE at home because my boyfriend winges that I keep setting Mozzie as the default and made me remove it, because he doesn't like it.

But at work, it's Mozzie all the way Baby!

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Anyone know how to get the links in outlook express to open into Firefox?( if Firefox is set as default ) ..Although I have set it to be the default browser..if I click a link in an email in outlook it still opens in IE ..( running IE 5.5 , Outlook 5.0 and doze 98II )...I know I could use thunderbird to read mail except for a "lightweight" ..it's damn big and there are some bugs ...and it has no "import from outlook" facility ...( I only want to be able to import my settings for access to mail boxes but no matter which way I do it manually Thunderbird can't connect with either my Isp's or my sites )..

The only way I can see is to install mozilla and then import to moz and then import to thunderbird ..this leaves files all over the place which inspite of mozilla being very clean ...it doesnt disinstall all its files when a disinstall is done and leaves me manually checking for hours to get rid of what it placed ....

Thanks in anticipation ...

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there's a theme-switcher button at the lower left of the status bar when more than one stylesheet is present

How do you get that configured? It doesn't appear on my status bar.

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I use IE at home because my boyfriend winges that I keep setting Mozzie as the default and made me remove it, because he doesn't like it.

He's not good enough for you! Be careful of men that hang around with the wrong sort.

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How do you get that configured? It doesn't appear on my status bar.

It's in the VERY far left of the status bar. I don't think there's any configuring to it; it's just there by default (for me at least).

Try this page and see if it comes up for you:

[texturizer.net...]

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Try this page and see if it comes up for you: [texturizer.net...]

Okay, I see it on that page. Somehow firefox is not picking up the fact that pages on my web site contain an alternate style sheet. And there doesn't seem to be any obvious difference about how I've defimed my alternate style sheet compared to how they're defined in the firefox page.

I'll have to sit and contemplate this. Thanks.

(But I like the fact the facility is obvious, not hideen as in Opera and Mozilla)

3:50 am on July 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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FireFox users, you need to upgrade to 0.9.2 as soon as possible as there is a shell access security hole that needs to be patched:

[eweek.com...]

links in a Web page using the "shell:" scheme can execute arbitrary programs on the user's system. The attacker would have to know the location in the file system of the program, but there are known programs in Windows with buffer overflows.

This means the attacker could create a link in a Web page that could execute arbitrary code under Windows. Through the use of an appropriate META tag, the attack could load without the user having to click a link explicitly.

[ftp.mozilla.org...]

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You don't need to install 0.9.2 apparently for that fix, it's a tiny download (1 kB) here [update.mozilla.org].

Apparently only affects Windows XP, not Windows XP SP2 though.

All it does is shut off the ability to run 'shell:', which I guess Mozilla had thought about turning off by default but left on for some reason. Happily not a structural flaw or anything as far as I can see.

To see if your browser is properly patched, you can visit this page [mccanless.us], if you only see the one link it's patched, if you see several, it's not.

These are good things to work out before the 1.0 release I think, since security is one of the questions driving this thing, it's good to see this kind of testing happening, also nice to see how simple the fix is.

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The patch worked; I went and downloaded 0.9.2 anyway and found the upgrade utterly painless. Used the same profile and everything, no problem.

We all knew a FireFox vulnerability had to come along sometime, but this one was a very nice reassurance that the Mozilla team is on top of things and releases security patches almost as fast as their browser renders pages! ;)

(Although I think security patches should have a location of their own rather than residing with the extensions.)

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It's also worth noting that this is really a vulnerability in Windows' handling of the shell: scheme (which will finally be patched in XP SP2). Mozilla is proactively cutting off access to it even though it hasn't been exploited.
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