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Firefox, and web graphics search

for redoing an "antique" site



1:55 am on Sep 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've been looking intermittently for the last couple of weeks for a new graphic to use on an OLD personal site I'm finally going to redo. I'm not in the market for "freebie" stuff: I use art by permission from the artist, and as often paid-for as free.

In the middle of this search, I've tried probably a dozen sites hosted on FortuneCity. These aren't just "twaddle" animation sites etc., most of them are decent artists (I know this because I've had to use IE to access the sites - see following....)

I use Firefox 1.0PR. FC displays pages made up of the FC logo repeated ad infinitum ad nauseam, with the text/links/page content THERE (as per a look at the source) but unable to be utilized due to the repetition of the FC logo. So in order to visit these sites, I am forced to load them in IE. Which of course places sewer-dreck on my hdd, which I then have to remove with AdAware et al.

What IS the deal here? This is stupid, silly, ridiculous, annoying.... and lost one artist a commission for custom work of about $300 US; when she emailed me to ask what had changed my mind, I replied quite honestly that since her site was hosted on FC and I couldn't access it with a "real" browser (that is FF), I had to decline to deal with her. Her reply? "I can't afford a paid host...." Sheesh. For what I was going to pay her, she could have bought hosting for TWO YEARS!

Anyway, anyone have any idea what's up with this?


1:31 pm on Sep 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator rogerd is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Vkaryl, I'm not sure why running IE is presumed to open the floodgates of adware on your PC - I've surfed thousands of sites in IE but never unknowingly picked up adware or spyware. (I've chosen to install spyware occasionally, like the Google and Alexa toolbars, but that was a conscious decision after weighing the risks vs. benefits.)

As a webmaster, IMO, one has to view sites the way 90% of visitors will. That means running IE often, even if one prefers another browser for personal surfing.


9:11 pm on Sep 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, rogerd, if since I started using FF (quite a few months now) the only times I EVER get scum are the times I'm forced to use IE to access places like Fortune City, I'm pretty sure it's a given that IE is the culprit, along with free hosts like FC....

As to surfing "like everyone else does" - I use IE to check how sites I develop display in it, they way I do with a lot of other browsers. And I recheck said sites in all browsers on a very regular basis. Other than to make sure sites I develop work the way they're supposed to in IE (or the other browsers), why on earth should I have to surf like whatever percentage of other people do?

The whole point in NOT using IE is that there are better browsers out there. I'm using one of them. I don't get dreck on my hdd when I use FF. I DO get dreck when I use IE, and in main, the only sites for which I use IE are ones which refuse to behave even marginally in FF - like the FC sites during the last couple of weeks.

Regardless, you know, I wasn't trying to start a war over browsers. I was simply asking whether the behavior on Fortune City was something only I had experienced or had others herein run across this as well.

[I probably should point out that the "scum" in question is neither ad ware nor mal ware - it's stuff like tracking cookies, adaware's notations of "possible browser hijack attempt" etc. Not harmful like some stuff out there, but I STILL have to remove it....]


9:41 pm on Sep 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I use IE (avant) full time. I have never had spyware problems. Just turn off all active x and scripting, update regulary - you will be fine.

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