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I'm in Japan and the share for my company's website (it's an English school) is 6.3% Firefox, 2.3% Mozilla and 86.4% IE. I think Japan's a little behind the rest of the world in things like this - most of the people I speak to haven't even heard of Google (even some of the software engineers I know don't know it).
I'm looking at the stats for a site for highly web literate people.
It's an established site, and has tens of thousands of page views a day. And around 1000 unique visitors each day.
Firefox visitors for the past two weeks is just over 50%.
A large number of these are the techies who'll do the next round of browser updates on numerous corporate websites.
The people from my city Glasgow:
92% MSIE 6.0
8% MSIE 5.5
6407 MSIE 6.0
983 MSIE 5.5
217 MSIE 5.01
96 Firefox 1.0
74 Firefox 0.8
54 Safari 1.2
53 Netscape 7.1
50 MSIE 5.0
36 Mozilla 5.0
29 MSIE 5.23
25 MSIE 5.13
16 Firefox 0.10.
12 Opera 6.04
11 msie 6
10 Netscape 7.2
8 Mozilla 3.01
8 Mozilla 4.61
5 Firefox 0.9.3
1 MSIE 5.22
1 Safari 1.0
1 Opera 7.52
1 MSIE 5.21
1 MSIE 5.12
1 MSIE 5.15
Given that most (not all, obviously) home users are not computer-savvy, whilst institutions tend to have their PCs serviced by computer-savvy IT departments (but sadly, not all), then you are lilkely to get a higher proportion of IE-users amongst visitors from home than visitors from work. And your overall proportion of IE visits are going to be influenced by whether people tend to visit your site from home or work.
I run an academically-related web site and, for some yeras now, the proportion of IE-based visits have increased during the university holidays, then fallen when term began. I interpret this as fewer students visiting the site from college outside term-time, rather than fluctuations in the installed base of IE and other browsers! :)
a higher proportion of IE-users amongst visitors from home than visitors from workI don't think you can make this generalization. If you want to install a new browser on your home computer, you can do so at any time. Most people do not have such privileges at work. Corporate IT departments moreover are usually hesitant to adopt new software; some will deliberately wait for even a 1.1 version and while one might argue an alternative web browser would not interfere with other software, they in turn would argue that IE is "good enough for now" in most industries, so better to be cautious.
So only about 1% here.
On a side note, I have both FF and IE at home, but end up using MyIE2 (Maxthon) all the time because of its ability to open a group of tabs at one time.
IE 6.0: 90%
IE 5.5: 3.5%
Mozilla/Netscape 7: 1.1%
IE 5.0: 0.8%
IE 5.1/5.2 (Mac): 0.2%
The 2.3% Firefox does include me as the admin, but the traffic is significant enough that I know I'm not the only one using it (no time to do a proper analysis, though). However, IE remains very strong, Mozilla/Netscape 7 is static to declining.
I have nothing against FF though. I recommend it to all my friends, and have "Get Firefox" button my site. I just prefer IE for myself.
I am just waiting to see if FF is going to tip the 50% mark.. it's been climbing for last 8-12 weeks. And now they're slightly pipping IE ;)
Nov '04 - IE 56.5% ~ FF 40.6%
Dec '04 - IE 51% ~ FF 46.75%
Jan '05 - FF 49.5% ~ IE 48.2%
fun watching tho' :)
IE 6 ~ 74%
FF ~ 9%
IE 5.5 ~ 4%
Moz ~ 3%
IE 5.01~ 1%
And then down from there into the decimels of percentage.
I wouldn't consider my viewership in the "tech savvy" crowd, so I was a bit surprised to see FF at such a high percentage.
There is no real push to get the Mozilla Suite so I think this is an informed personal preference that will not see actualy decrease in actual people using it unless development stops.
As far as "at work" you only really need to download a zip file of Firefox to use it. The idiots that they call IT guys at my (totally amatuer) school FINALLY installed Firefox on some of the computers but still only have IE on a good majority of them (coincidently I go for design/development there ... totally amatuer like I said ...).
If you're at work download Firefox and open it with a zip program that doesn't fail to keep folder structure (my school has some PKzip or something but only on the XP machines that ALREADY have a zip program via the OS... amatuers...).
The only drawback about zip installs is that I haven't figured out how to get flash working for Firefox.
For January 2004, MSIE had a 90.6% share, so its share has dropped 5.5% in the last year. Some of Firefox's share has come at the expense of the Mozilla and Netscape browsers' shares.
Time will tell if Firefox will be able to make deeper inroads into IE's userbase -- it will need to penetrate beyond just the geek crowd that is its primary domain right now.