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Opera comes out with "official" IE/FireFox skin

giving users what they want, or "me too" reaction?

     
2:49 pm on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Opera is officially posting a set of skins/controls to make Opera look/feel like IE/FireFox

[opera.com...]
IE/Firefox look and feel includes:

* Skin
* Toolbar
* Menu
* Keyboard shortcuts
6:05 pm on July 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think what would make this better is if you're given a choice on install - most people that are coming over from IE (and maybe some from FF) wouldn't think about skinning and seeing everything "so different" could scare them back. If they could start off with something familiar and gradually ease into the change, that could help keep some people, I think.

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3:00 am on July 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I honestly don't know if their release is an attempt to lure new users (certainly not away from Mozilla/FireFox) more than to keep existing users?

This is not Opera bashing, it's a very fine browser, but it's adoption percentage is unfortunately the lowest of the three largest, perhaps 4th if you include Safari on the Mac platform.

If that universal plugin format comes out, that might change everything though. Especially if Microsoft doesn't get on board and everyone else converts all the great FireFox extensions.

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This is not Opera bashing, it's a very fine browser, but it's adoption percentage is unfortunately the lowest of the three largest, perhaps 4th if you include Safari on the Mac platform

It's because of the ads, I think. Out of all of the free browsers out there, Opera is the only one that shows advertisements. It's also the only browser with a price tag. That's why I don't use it personally and I expect that's the reason a lot of people don't.

12:51 pm on July 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Personally I don't mind paying for software I like, but at present I can't afford $40.00 for a browser when I can get FireFox for free. If I could get ad-free Opera for free, I would find it more attractive.

Actually, though, I switched from IE straight to FireFox (okay, Mozilla was in there for a week or two). I didn't try Opera until I'd been with FireFox for a month or so. By that time, I was so used to "The Fox" (probably "The Bird" at that time) that Opera seemed big and kludgy like IE. I know it can be scaled and customized, but it still maintained that same awkward feel. It just seemed too much like IE - but that might turn into a very big advantage to Opera if they ever hope to grab a lot of IE users. Let's face it, Mozilla and FireFox are both so different from IE that it's a pretty big adjustment to go directly to them from IE.

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I always thought Firefox looked (physically) a lot more like IE than Opera does.... And, without adding any extensions, functioned more like IE than Opera (ie, no mouse gestures, etc) does.

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2:06 am on July 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I guess that just goes to show that this, like most other things, is all a matter of perspective! ;)

Regardless of which browser is more like IE, I do believe we're on the verge of a massive switch to "alternative" browsers by general Internet users. I don't say the majority of users will switch, but I think the coming months will show both FireFox and Opera gaining more and more significant market shares. It will be interesting to see what happens. The results should show, among other things, which of the two browsers bears most resemblence to IE in the minds of the general populace.

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I agree, I've already seen an increase in my stats for Firefox (about a 2-3% increase) and about a 5% decrease in IE. The site is a band site, but I do have a thread in my forum that I use to notify people of when there are critical updates for Windows - it was about the time of the last bunch of updates that I noticed the jump.

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This is not Opera bashing, it's a very fine browser, but it's adoption percentage is unfortunately the lowest of the three largest, perhaps 4th if you include Safari on the Mac platform.

Opera generally has a higher market share than Safari in browser stats, even if many stat sites fail to detect Opera properly when identified as MSIE (default).

Browser stats are a bit unreliable anyway, aren't they? When large statistics site can't even detect Opera properly it kind of makes one think.

 

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