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Also, I'd like to announce that I have discontinued the long standing Opera Fun section over on SearchEngineWorld.
A clean install however, seems just as fast as Opera 6 (streets ahead of IE).
Fast, and vastly more configurable, it is now my default browser.
However, I guess most people have PCs faster than 266Mhz these days...
Also, Strimmerboy's above post seems interesting, though I did install the program in a seperate folder rather than actually 'overwriting' the files.
Anyone notice in 6/7 how clicking a window tab would take a few moments to show that window? (In 5, it was instantaneous). Reminds me of our new TV when changing channels actually...
Not enough of a bother to turn me off entirely however.
joined:Dec 3, 2002
i looked for the system requirements but i could not find them. no real mention of opera 6 on the page anymore, at least for windows
I wrote a mail to Opera, since I think it is really bad what they have done. While it may be stable, on the rendering front is very much not finished. Personally, i think this is were they get part of their speed gain from.
I've been using the release version of opera 7 or a day now on two Win 2K computers and it seems pretty solid. The new look is growing on me. So far all the sites that I had trouble with in V6 seem to render fine with V7. The one new feature that I really like is "Open requested pop-up windows only". For me, this was about the only feature I really missed in V6.
The other Opera features I can't live without are Mouse Gestures, the way BACK is implemented (Instantly return to previous page), file transfers, and I am really hooked on the status bar that pops up while a page is loading (which includes trasfer RATE so I can tell if a page has stalled or is just loading s l o w l y).
I've tried Netscape 6 and Mozzila. Both still seem bloated, slow, and buggy to me compared to Opera.
The one negative of Opera is the price. I did pay for Opera 6, but don't think I'll pay for the upgrade to 7. I think people would be much more willing to buy opera if the cost were more reasonable (compared to FREE). I think $19 US for a new license and $5 - $10 for an upgrade would be better price points. And, a much more aggresive site license scheme. If I could get a 50 user site license for about $5 per seat I would do it today. As it is, I can stand the opera adds.
I don't know about everyone else, but I don't even see adds anymore. It's to the point many times I have trouble finding a legitimate link on a page because it is TOO big and flashy:)
joined:Oct 27, 2001
1) The way it stores bookmarks. (If I'm looking for 10 sites on widgets, I can just have the widgets folder open on my hotlist and save widgets bookmarks to that folder instantly.)
2) The fact that I can have a whole slew of Web sites open within one browser frame and with just one button in my Windows taskbar.
However, I still use Internet Explorer for much of my work, because mostly because text seems to look slightly better in IE.
I did like the Rollback feature, which re-instated my Opera 5 without trouble.
The installation programme can sometimes make or break a software. In Operaís case they did not give much consideration to existing users. I think Iíll stick with 5 for a while. Maybe try 7 again when I have a bit more time.
My 2 cents
Overall I'm going to stick with Mozilla personally (many wonderful tools for developers as well as XML support to name a couple of reasons) but I have no problems recommending Opera to users who are open to a new web browser.
Oh and this is my first post on what seems to be a very informed and intelligent board. Glad to be here. =o)
Welcome to WebmasterWorld. I've been using O7 for a while now, and it's really growing on me - enough that I'm leaving O6 behind.
I can see some compromises were made so the average, non-geek consumer will like it. But I managed to turn off enough of the flashy animation to get an interface that doesn't distract me.
I do get a bit unnerved by the progressive rendering of table layouts, which makes the text render and then nudge and adjust about for a while. But it's all so fast anyway that I hate it when I need to use another browser for testing.
Is it possible to run O 7 and earlier versions on the same machine? From the sounds of it you have to do a clean install with O 7 in order to avoid the nasties.
I could put up with that for a while, but when it started crashing on startup over some trouble with xmlparse.dll, and after wading through the tech forum at Opera and finding no reference then realizing I should be surfing, not beta-testing, I uninstalled and went back to 6.05.
Chalk me up as disappointed. (Been a confirmed O buff since 3.62)