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Implications of installing the .NET Framework

Usability issues in XP Pro?

   
1:55 am on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've encountered several applications that require the installation of the .NET Framework. Message #29 on the following thread, though, has made me wonder how it will affect how I use my computer (running XP Pro with SP2)...

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...it requires the 'MS .net framework' installed, so I went and installed that too (it changed how I log on (very irritating)).

What actually does .NET change on XP? I'm the sole user in a home office environment.

Mods - This post might belong either in the Windows OS forum or in the .NET forum. I'm asking the question about .NET from a Windows usability perspective, but if you feel it belongs in the .NET forum, please move it over.

4:18 am on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The .net framework should'nt have changed your log on and i don't believe its needed for ghost or a partitioner.

.Net creates a server side and a client side webdevelopment environment for visual studio, i use it for visual web developer ( which replaces FrontPage this year) and sql server.

with hard drives so large there is really no need to partition drives like you tried to do, just separate folders would have done it

As for backup, how about the backup built into XP, or even the free backup program that comes with an iomega zip drive( you can get 1 gig disks)I use it and its fine.

6:04 am on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The .net framework should'nt have changed your log on...

Mike - I think you're confusing me with the original poster of the other thread. He said it changed his log in. I'm not sure what it does.

...and i don't believe its needed for ghost or a partitioner.

When I started installing Ghost, I vaguely remember that I did get a request to install .NET, and for that reason I cancelled and put it on the shelf.

My question here really wasn't about backup, so no point discussing it. Thanks...

I have several applications I'd like to install that require .NET, and I'm wondering what .NET does to the user experience on XP.

8:44 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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it changed how I log on

Some more-specific information on this would be helpful - otherwise we are just guessing. HOW did it change the way you log on?

Here's MY guess... this may not have anything to do with .net per se. I know there is a security setting in Windows XP that can be set such that Windows will not show the last logged-in user, and so you have to type-in a user ID each time you log-in.

I manually set that setting on my system, as I think it's a good idea.

I am wondering if this setting got changed, either as an incidental part of the .net install, or by something else (security update?) that you did around the same time?

If this is it, you can change the setting back if you want.

I think you will find this somewhere in Local Security Policy. Ah, yes, here is is:

In Local Security Settings, navigate to Local Policies/Security Options/Interactive Login: Do not display last user name.

There are other settings that affect other aspects of interactive logins as well.

8:53 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Robert, I'm an active developer who uses C#, C++ and yes even VB6 and other non-compiled languages. I also use Photoshop and all the other usual end-user apps for Windows XP Pro. I've never had any problems with the .NET framework being installed on the machine I do my development work on. In fact for the most part I'm not even aware it's there when using end-user stuff like Photoshop. I don't know if my situation is unique so YMMV.
9:07 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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He's probably talking about this...

My computer used to start up straight to the desktop. After installing .NET, it now starts up to the "Click your profile" screen. Not a big deal, but a totally un-necessary step.

No other changes noticed.

12:20 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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He's probably talking about this...

My computer used to start up straight to the desktop. After installing .NET, it now starts up to the "Click your profile" screen. Not a big deal, but a totally un-necessary step.

Again, I'm not the one who's experienced the log-in problem... I haven't installed .NET yet... but this sounds like it could be it. I've contacted the original poster of the other thread and asked him to jump in here.

But this step, if it's what jk3210 describes, might make me grumble too, particularly because I'm not familiar enough with managing profiles to know what problems down the road might be with it. Guess I'm still a bit uncomfortable with a multi-user network environment.

12:58 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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He's probably talking about this...

My computer used to start up straight to the desktop. After installing .NET, it now starts up to the "Click your profile" screen. Not a big deal, but a totally un-necessary step.

Again, I'm not the one who's experienced the log-in problem... I haven't installed .NET yet... but this sounds like it could be it. I've contacted the original poster of the other thread and asked him to jump in here.

Yep, that was it: 'After installing .NET, it now starts up to the "Click your profile" screen'. I installed a little program to get me round such irritating MS un-necessary steps - I think its called 'Tweak UI' or something.

Sorry not to reply for a while, I'm out of the country for a few weeks.

5:13 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks... Guess I'll look for Tweak UI for and then install .NET.
7:54 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You don't NEED tweakui to do this - it's just a convenience.

You can just make this change using the Local Security Policy tool under Control Panel/Administratative Tools.

6:16 am on Jun 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks all....
 

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