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GMAIL - Google Announces Their e-mail service

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6:26 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

[webmasterworld.com...]

Original Links:

[biz.yahoo.com...]

[mercurynews.com...]

[wired.com...]

[gmail.google.com...]

6:29 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Has the submit button worked for anyone? I just get a 404.
6:30 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From the TOS:

The contents of your Gmail account also are stored and maintained on Google servers in order to provide the service. Indeed, residual copies of email may remain on our systems, even after you have deleted them from your mailbox or after the termination of your account. Google employees do not access the content of any mailboxes unless you specifically request them to do so (for example, if you are having technical difficulties accessing your account) or if required by law, to maintain our system, or to protect Google or the public.

Emphasis added by me

Not everyone [npi] is going to be happy with that.

6:32 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Same Here
6:35 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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residual copies of email may remain on our systems, even after you have deleted them

The Feds at Home Land Security gotta like that.

6:37 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also at the top it says under "you should know" - third paragraph:

"No human reads your email to target ads or related information to you without your consent."

This is NOT TRUE as specifically mentioned in the part I quoted above it should be changed to something like "without your consent or under certain circumstances listed below".

6:39 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Same here ;-(
Even after seeing the Gmail Privacy page, were my previous question to GG is answered...
We serve highly relevant ads and other information as part of the service using our unique content-targeting technology. No human reads your email to target ads or related information to you without your consent.

still got an error ;-(
6:39 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'll believe this one AFTER April 1st is over with. I fell for something like this a couple of years ago and it made me feel really stupid when it was just a joke. Just because the main stream media is picking up on it doesn't mean it's not a spoof. :)
6:41 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if they will also make it available Deskbar-ish [toolbar.google.com] ..
6:41 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm starting to come around. Why go to this much trouble for an April Fools that isn't even particularly funny. Oh well, I'm reserving judgement until we tick over to April 2nd. :)
6:47 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Need to update trademark page here

[google.com...]

If it is a joke - they are going to tick off a bunch of people that could really use something better than the crap that MSFT and Yahoo offers.

That is the only reason I can't imagine this being a joke.

Also - they have done more and more with email - such as news alerts and now:

[google.com...]

6:56 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Working! Yes

Thank you for your interest in Gmail

Your email address has been submitted. We look forward to sending you Gmail updates.

But not receving the email yet. Hope it is not the same as Orkut where a receive invitation after 6 to 9 days after my friends invited me!

[edited by: Allergic at 7:02 am (utc) on April 1, 2004]

6:58 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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confirmation page working ...

Thank you for your interest in Gmail

Your email address has been submitted. We look forward to sending you Gmail updates

Shak

7:03 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I guess I am not the only one who submitted his email address ;)
7:04 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The 1 April part was only to get all the email accounts of WebmasterWorld members ;)
7:08 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey, I just submitted my AdWords account default e-mail; that gets preference right? ;)
7:09 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Man, I can't wait to read about Gmail in all the newspapers on April Fool's Day. :)
7:11 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hhahaha! DOH! :(
7:16 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This morning our local radio station news & breakfast radio announced that the IOC had taken 3 events off Athens - and awarded them to Sydney - because the Athens venues weren't going to be finished in time (no roof over the swimming venue etc.)

Sydney still had operational & proven venues from the Sydney 2000 Olympics - so it was the only logical thing to do.

They even had interviews with prominent Australian Olympic 2000 gold medalists, about how great it was that they'd get to compete at 2 consecutive Olympics infront of their home crowd. Tickets would be on sale soon, listeners called in - euphoria.

They fessed up at 8.30am this morning that it was an April Fools joke.

Gmail, on the other hand, just looks like a brilliant marketing strategy being unveiled as we watch. Enough to be credible, enough to be a scam. But - if it was a joke - wouldn't it have been 'exposed' by now? Wouldn't a Journalist have asked the "April Fool's" question?

Wouldn't Orlowski & Brandt have have 'blown the whistle' already if this was a 'joke'?

7:16 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Working now for me too. They must be watching and fixing stuff :) Either that or wondering why no one was signing up.
7:19 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've got to say that I feel much better about my schedule of launching new features on my sites now that I'm watching Google do the same routine...

1) Tell everyone it's up.
2) Point the domain name to the right server.
3) Make and post the pages.
4) Make and post the CGI's.
5) Test the CGI's.
6) Repost the working CGI's.

This is opposed to the schedule the "customer" always seem to want:

1) Make and post the pages to a testing server.
2) Make, test and post the CGI's.
3) Migrate the functioning site to the public server.
4) Tell everyone it's up.

:D On topic, I am truly looking forward to my own GMAIL account. Once I saw the functionality of the Adwords system, I recognized the real effort Google puts in to the user experience. GMAIL is bound to be the best web-based e-mail out there.

And, uh, for everyone who agrees that the box-checking in the personalization lab is silly and outdated... We may have just found out how Google will eliminate the need for actually asking the user what their preferences are. An amalgamation of my incoming mail (the non-canned meat variety) and outgoing mail should tell an algo almost everything about my online life and interests. :) The future is bright...

7:29 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Am I the only one who thinks that serving ads based on email content is more than a little diabolical? How would you feel, for example, if the email newsletter you created to promote your business/site ended up plastered with all of your competitors ads? You create the content - google gets 100% of the ad revenue, you lose the customers!

Its a genious idea for google though (evil genious!)

7:37 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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1) Yes, this is real.
2) Google will be spidering all emails and serving AdWords ads. For this reason they'll force webmail as much as possible (charging for remote access mediums or otherwise discouraging them).

Prediction: Google will make a killing off of this and the privacy concerns will not initially be a big issue.

Prediction 2: Google will examine the possibility of giving POP access and serving adwords like the mail provider signature. The big hurdle for this step is the concern of actually placing the ad within the email.

Twist: Google will broach the privacy concern by saying humans never read the emails. This will be true but does not address another thing they will do. Which is aggregate the information for further social networking and personalized applications.

7:42 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You should delete your Google cookie before giving them your email address. That's the last piece of evidence they need to tie all your Google searches, your various IP addresses, and your browser, to you as an individual. Note that all this Gmail stuff is is on a subdomain, and yes, they are issuing a standard google.com cookie if you don't already have one. This happens by the time you get to the page where you hand over your email address. That means if you already have a Google cookie, they're grabbing it and associating it with your email address. Yes, that's the same cookie that expires in 2038 and has your unique ID in it.
8:42 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Although I think this is in fact real because they have been talking about this for a while, I find it strange that there is NO real April Fools Joke at www.google.com.

Comon, these guys do something every year. If the mail is not it then what is? They never forget this date! Atleast give us a new logo...

Hmmmm something is going on.

8:43 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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there wasn't anything last year, right?
8:53 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Here it is:
[google.com...]
9:34 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Found this........

gmail [packages.debian.org]

Doesn't mention Google at all, or at least I can't tell this early on April 1.

And I thought today would be boring :)

jb

9:45 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Okay, maybe I'm dense, but what I'm not yet understanding is whether there'll be ads in INCOMING e-mail, OUTGOING e-mails, on the e-mail reading screens, or all of the above?

I doubt 'all of the above'. So I'm guessing it's one of the first three...?

10:07 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From MSNBC [msnbc.msn.com]

The timing and wording of Google's press release, however, immediately generated speculation on online forums that the news was an elaborate April Fool's prank by Google.

Wow they almost said Webmasterworld. :( .. maybe next time

jb

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