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I do look at the occasional cute beer or car ad, but the rest of it just goes over and around me....
I am NOT a "tv-oriented" individual AT ALL. Biggest timewaster ever invented.
I am NOT a "tv-oriented" individual AT ALL. Biggest timewaster ever invented.
I agree! My personal conspiracy theory is that TV, essentially a wonderful invention, was co-opted by the big corporations and used as a means of keeping the masses at bay while they go out and take over the world.
Watching inane "reality" shows and drooling over the latest fashions plays into the global consumer market.
Do we REALLY need to buy a car every three - four years? Do we really need all those new items every year? How many times can you have "new and improved" toothpaste, shampoo, mouthwash, etc.?
In the 1960's TV was proclaimed as a vast wasteland. It still is.
That said, what is really going on on LOST? I don't buy the purgatory argument at all. I'm more of a realist.
(oops.... just admited to being sucked into the bast conspiracy...)
My personal conspiracy theory is that TV, essentially a wonderful invention, was co-opted by the big corporations and used as a means of keeping the masses at bay while they go out and take over the world.
This comes from watching too many episodes of The X-Files.
That said, what is really going on on LOST?
The island is an alien spaceship.
Or perhaps I only think that because I've watched too many episodes of The X-Files. :)
cEM
I am an admitted TV watcher, as I travel every week and stay in hotels. While I work, I "listen" to it!
hey guys, how about those Patriots? ;-)
Even went to a Pubcon in London :)
...as the thread about female webmasters turns to modern day soap operas....
For me it's still Coro Street... I always fancied Ken Barlow.
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We don't allow URL drops in here I'm afraid, hence my edit to your post.
I've been following this thread with some interest - not because I'm female (I'm not), but I was curious to see if there would be any comments relating to targetting a female audience.
So as a general question to the ladies present - when you create websites, how many of you specifically target the female surfer, and how do you go about that?
TJ
I am NOT a "tv-oriented" individual AT ALL. Biggest timewaster ever invented.
Amen, vkaryl -- though I am a sucker for an occasional history documentary (ancient Egypt, forensic anthrophology stuff, aviation history, and so forth). My tv usage parallels my Internet "surfing" habits -- research and education over entertainment.
[ETA - Funny, the post that pushes me over the edge to "senior" is about tv]
Note to Self: Never mention tv in a thread. But bald webmasters is apparently a safe diversionary topic!
Note to Self: Never mention tv in a thread.
I think that's a good philosophy Triarii ;-)
The General forum is not really the place for TV discussion, perhaps we can keep the thread in the direction of female webmastering.
Does a female webmaster have an advantage when it comes to targetting a female audience?
TJ
I work with a few sites that are specifically geared towards women. They are operated by a woman and I sure wouldn't have picked the colour schemes that she did. She is also much better at knowing what will 'hit' better than me.
I have spent enough time there now that I have a much better understanding of the approach but if it was the 2 of us starting seperate sites at the same time she would have blown me out of the water long ago.
I really haven't given a lot of thought to the fact that I'm female in this market, although there is the concern that I might not be taken as seriously as some of my male peers (moreso in my backwoods city of no-man's land than in a more metropolitan area). On the other hand, the male developers in my area tend to, ah... perform similarly as the few women I know do, so I'm not too worried about being discriminated in that area.
I'm more concerned about my age: 24. And the fact that my voice sounds like a little kid's on the phone.
And the fact that my voice sounds like a little kid's on the phone.
But seriously, HorseFeathers brings up an interesting, and not entirely inappropriate tangent for us to explore: what effect do you find your age has on a client's (a)reaction, (b)liklihood to hire you, and/or (c)treatment of you as a professional.
cEM
my 5 cents: I'm obviously a gurl, but don't like other female webmasters. They are usually mean and picky, and don't want to exchange links with my site, while guys always swap links without a problem.
They are usually mean and picky, and don't want to exchange links with my site
Don't take this the wrong way as I obviously don't know your sites, but your above comment actually to me sounds like a compliment to the female webmastering fraternity?
while guys always swap links without a problem
Mean & picky = fussy. And fussy usually makes for a high quality website.
TJ
Let's try not to let this thread get too sexist ;-)
I'm obviously a gurl, but don't like other female webmasters. They are usually mean and picky, and don't want to exchange links with my site, while guys always swap links without a problem.
Hmmm... interesting observation.
As they say, on the internet no one knows if you are a dog. So what happens to your link request approval rate if you change your handle to sound more "masculine"?
Inter-webmaster social dynamics are powerful... as evidenced in the blogging "industry", where blogs (websites) go from zero to 1 million pages per day in a few days (and back again) based on social aspects including femaledom.
In this sense sexism is important to the thread. If I need backlinks from geeky-girrls.com should I hire a hip webmistress to get them? Is there oppportunity to create a service firm SavvySisters.com which specialized in link campaigns where the female factor is at work?
Having addressed the gender topic, I'm now going to start a thread to protect humanity from posters who use fictional English words, such as "femaledom" and "passle". *S*
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...protect humanity from posters who use fictional English words, such as "femaledom" and "passle"...
Actually, "passel" is a perfectly good American dialectical word - you will find it in Webster's, and in use in many areas of the southeast and mid-south.
...protect humanity from posters who use fictional English words, such as "femaledom" and "passle"...Actually, "passel" is a perfectly good American dialectical word - you will find it in Webster's, and in use in many areas of the southeast and mid-south.
You are indeed correct, vkaryl, and thank you for actually confirming that PASSLE (sic) actually is a fictional word, actually ;-)
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As well as neither title being gender specific, the primary reason I use them is simply because it allows me to identify exhibition hawker emails, plus bounce ***all*** emails addressed WEBMASTER@.
Oh! That's a good tip, trees. ;-]
I have two cards, the formal one says "WEB MANAGER" and the one which I hand out at exhibitions "SEX MANAGER".
I assume you meant, "and the one I hand out at exhibitions says 'SEX MANAGER' "? It's just that your comment about misspelled words makes me think you might have worries about proper grammar and syntax, too.
Question: do you use the words SEX MANAGER to make exhibitionists (no pun intended) not want to email you? I don't really understand that particular word choice. You could easily use "SITE MANAGER" on one and "WEB MANAGER" on another. It would have the same effect you describe (easy email sorting), without being creepy and inappropriate. Just a thought.
cEM
