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Minor word modifications?
Re-submission to world-wide Altavista sites?
Index reshuffle based on an older algo?
>reshuffle based on an older algo?
Either one of those might explain it. The other top 10 in my SERP are popular sites and most were in the top 20 before the database hit the fan.
It has to be this. Last week I had a site that was ranked number 6 under a very very popular term. The title and description did not have the keyword phrase combined together like that of the search. Neither did the other sites that were listed. The site has been dropped way down the list.
Now I am seeing all the sites listed under that same search and many others with the Title containing the exact keyword phrase.
I think they are back to their old algo where title, description, and header content really puts heavy weight on getting ranked well. Though this doesn't really mean it works all the time as there are some sites listed without the keywords in the title.
Same pattern with the site I mentioned in the message above. Title and first line of text match the keyword phrase exactly.
As my ranking was based mainly on theming and heavy internal linking, I'm wondering if there's been a database shrinkage?
AV was showing NO directory links, not even LookSmart!! And besides LookSmart, this site is in Yahoo, Go, ODP and a host of specialized directories that Alta used to have indexed.
Anyone else seen something like this? It seems totally weird to me. I just finished re-submitting a whole mess of linked pages, and I sure hope it makes a difference.
Then again, maybe things ARE getting out of hand... Though that is rather unlikely.
Anyway, whichever way the wind is blowing - it's still blowing... I believe we will keep seeing changes in the results in the next few days at the very least.
Had a site reappear after being banned since last Feb.
They no longer report the number of pages found relating to the exact term "keyword phrase", but rather the old style sum of all the pages that contain either or both.
I think they are going Ink style PFP very shortly.
In the main AV i'm only showing 10-30 links to the sites that are ranked well. Now those same sites have anywhere from 11,000-80,000 in the "listings" index. They must pull it from there.
I don't have any of these sites listed in LS and I haven't looked into see if the others below me have. But from what I see, none of the descriptions are LS, there are even some with no description tags. These results look to be entirely based on title and page content with a splash of popularity.
I don't know...
Someone told me once that only 4 people in Altavista know how the WHOLE picture works. Not sure if it is true but it wouldn't surprise me.
Those same sites are listed currently in the US AV. The results in the US AV match "listings" from a few days ago. Now "listings" has a different set of results.
Could this be a good way to see where you will be ranked in the next update of US AV? Whatever is indexed in "listings" now will appear in the next update?
If so then it is in fact true that they run all their calculations in this index, then pull out the best for the main index.
On my term, while I was in oblivion, pages found = 29,502 (way, way, way low). Now, while I'm up at #3, the page count is 360,336. If part of the database has been returned and incoming links along with them, this might account for the popularity factor kicking me back up into the top 10.
I want to clarify something. In my case, AV dumped my old title and description and replaced it verbatim with the Looksmart listing title and description. I've been assuming that's the same for others. Is it?