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Ink and dupe sites

Ink is picking up the wrong site

   
8:06 pm on Jan 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I copied an index page from a site that does well in Google and put it on a different domain, kw1kw2.com, to test anchor text. Ink now indexes the dupe site instead of the original site, and its #1 for my two main keywords.

Will ink only index one of the two? Will they index the original if I dump the dupe?

8:26 pm on Jan 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That is a good question. Ink has issues with dupe content right now. I can't seem to nail down exactly how they deal with it (probably because it's more complex than someone like me can figure out). But I have seen exidence of this before... Ink dropping a legitimate site when it sees dupe content from another page.
Did you PFI the dupe page? Did you PFI the original?
8:28 pm on Jan 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Similar thing happened to me. I posted about it in another thread.

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Ink is definitely having problems with this. I have a few keywords that my listing got replaced by an affiliate URL and also a few instances where they are both listed #1 and #2.

8:58 pm on Jan 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's so disappointing to see this. Are you guys using PFI? The thing that's so frustrating about this whole problem is that PFI pages seem to be the ones that get demoted. I can't prove that, but I have significant evidence of this.
9:05 pm on Jan 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No pfi. Ink indexed it on its own after crawling.
9:21 pm on Jan 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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no, all of my ink PFI's got dumped by INK about a month ago. These are just normal listings.
10:48 pm on Jan 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It seems that Ink dumps the older/original URL, often a pfi one, and instead keeps the copied one, which is about as bad a thing as it can do since it means competitors can just throw up a piece of junk copy to get legitimate sites 86ed.

My pfi page has been back for a few days but 100% of my free listings are still gone.

12:05 am on Jan 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>since it means competitors can just throw up a piece of junk copy to get legitimate sites 86ed.

Does this mean there is a lot of hijacked content on INK?

12:16 am on Jan 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes - there is some hijacked content... I see quite a bit. But Ink is also having some problems indexing redirects too... so Ink indexes a redirected page as if it were the page it was pointing too. Also links running through cgi counters etc. are causing problems too.

This is particularly dangerous when coupled with the current dupe content filters etc. A redirect to your site could get indexed as if it were a copy of your page and then the copy of your page would get indexed and possibly your page would get dropped.

Once again, I have evidence fot this... but nothing that would constitute as "proof". Too many changing factors to actually prove it. I can see the smoking gun, but that's about it.

12:18 am on Jan 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So do I take down the dupe site? Will INK then only look at my original site?

The only link to this site is from the original one.

3:29 am on Jan 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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that's a good question. You may want to give it a shot. The problem with INk is that you may have to wait a few months til ink decides to come by again to see if it works. Best of luck on that! Let us know what happens.