INK's operations/algo

Now quite stumped

[Skylo]

Hi everyone, I need some sort of reference here.
This is the scenario: I have been told a million times that to get better results in MSN I should submit our site to Inktomi. So I have but nothing has happened. I have been told as well that INKs algo is similar to googles.

Now I'm stumped as we are by far the leaders in our field as far as SEO is concerned with google. Almost all our sites come out #1 in their respective search terms.

So why do we suck so much. We are also in the zeal directory so I am at an end here and considering pulling out of INK. Is there anything someone might know from past experience how to do a little better at this. Keep in mind that at the end of the day I want us to be doing better in MSN and INK and i just do not see this happening if I just keep running into brick walls.

Just so that you know I have the site listed in looksmart, overture, google, inktomi, zeal, DMOZ, yahoo directory.

Thanks everyone

[McMohan]

From my experience, the difference in ranks achieved between Google and Ink is just about 10%. This is true, provided you have given as much importance to site optimization as much to PR with respect to google. If you bank on PR mainly to achieve ranks in Google, same may not happen in Ink.
However I hope you have made sure all your pages are indexed with Ink by checking in PositionTech pure search.

Mc

[Skylo]

Yup, we have optimised in every way possible but just don't seem to make headway. Also I have checked my pages in pure search and they are all there......

[Tech420]

I have the same problem. Does great on Google, stinks on Ink. I have the index page and two other pages listed on Ink and one of the two pages is a dead link (bad?). Is there a way to remove a bad indexed page such as this?

Have not yet paid for paid inclusion and am considering this, but that shouldn't help my rankings, correct? How about paying/submitting a different page than ones indexed?

Any thoughts are appreciated!

[otnot]

Hi Tech420:
I paid for inclusion and I still suck. In fact Ink was supposed to update my listing every 48 hours and did so for the first 3 months but now they are down to every 2 weeks. It seems the more I try to optimize the worst it gets.

[skipfactor]

I paid for 10 & get slurped every other day & do great, but not nearly as good as Google, just glad it isn't the other way around.

[Tech420]

Hello otnot, everyone:

Thanks for your replies. I guess it's somewhat worth it just to have it indexed more quickly and more frequently. The algo seem to be very different to me when compared to Google. In my case there seem to be a big difference when putting quotes around say two of three search words.

But anyway, I'm just concerned about losing my yahoo rankings when(if) they switch over to Inktomi. I guess there isn't a way to see if you are somehow penalized in Inktomi.... I don't know what else I can really do in page optimization when I'm showing up good in Google and fairly well in Alta Vista.