Link limit? KW Frequency Limit?

[tedster]

I have two sites that I've been struggling with at Alta, even though they seem to do well elsewhere. Pondering what to tweak, I've come up with two questions. Both are related to Alta's fight against spam, I believe.

Does Alta have an upper limit for the number of links on a page, and hit you with a penalty above that number? These pages have a lot of links (like 50 to 60) even though most are in small text and not highly intrusive. But I thought that maybe the page looks like a doorway to their algo.

Similarly, did Alta recently bring down their kw frequency ceiling?

Either one or both of these factors might explain what I'm struggling with -- but I just don't have enough data to be sure. And since I don't do IP delivery, I'm hesitant to experiment and risk pages that are doing well elsewhere, since they must be one-size-fits-all.

I'm all ears on this one.

[seth_wilde]

Any luck with these sites on AV yet?

"Does Alta have an upper limit for the number of links on a page"

This was something that I was recently wondering about myself. It has been said in the past that to be safe you should stay below 50 links on any given page. Has anyone done any testing on this recently?

[tedster]

Yes, I got some rebound. I didn't touch the links, but I did drop the keyword desnsity.

Both these sites have the principle keyword in the business name, so it's too easy to go over the top with keyword dense copy. Just went through the copy and replaced "CompanyName" with "we" or "us" a bunch of times. Of course, AV changed so much recently it's not easy to say this was what caused the rebound.

And there was a side effect -- a Google drop. They seemed to really dig the 11% density pages and are not as happy now.

Still wondering about that total links per page issue. It's very easy to pile up a big number of links when a page design uses graphic links and text versions of the same links.

[msgraph]

I haven't had any problems with link limits on Altavista. Few of my sites' pages have been listed very well and they all have 150+ links on each page. I'm not recommending everyone go and place these many links on their sites but it doesn't seem to hurt you at all.

This is pretty much what Altavista does right?

They just strip out the links whether internal and/or outbound and throw them into another database as absolute URL's. Then they run their little duplication URL algos. After that, they match all links and keywords pointing to the site in particular to the "page content" database to find out what page is more relevant.

If they strip out all the URL's and throw them into a huge DB then I don't think there would be any kind of limit to the number of links. Well maybe they would stop after reaching a file size limit.

About Google....

Haven't had much success lately but around this time last year it was almost a sure-fire way to get listed well in Google. I think they have become pretty wise to it and cut down the limit.