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Bteeter...seems to me that if you get 75-100 out of google and only 3 out of MSN I would believe right? I would think that something aint right on your Optimization if thats the case? maybe Im wrong..
Hmmm... Perhaps. Who knows, I only focus on building good Google (and generally search engine) friendly, content rich pages.
Plus as a note, I'm talking about 75-150 each DAY from Google and 3 TOTAL from Inktomi in about 2 weeks. So that's like what $13.33 per click so far from my submission. What a total rip off. I wouldn't recommend submitting to Inktomi to anyone based on this experience.
Take care,
Brian
"I paid for submission a couple of weeks ago. I think it was the day before they announced that AOL dropped them. Yeah, lucky me."
The announcement came down months before it actually took place. I think AOL announced they were moving to Google back in April
That's pretty scummy as far as I'm concerned. Its totally bait and switch.
Take care,
Brian
Inktomi, people are saying this is a good update, but I cant see where there looking?...sorry
Portals change SE indexes, like we change clothes.
Yahoo has utilized AV, Inktomi & Google, all within a 4 year period.
Inktomi stands a chance at landing Yahoo, though Yahoo may show favor to FAST.... If Google stays on at Yahoo, that would be a first for Yahoo!
I know the guys at Position Tech, and they are 100% Integrity.. They wouldn't ever intentionally mislead someone.
So, crack a cold one, and get on with it... Because things will change, they always do.. :)
good update, but I cant see where there looking?...sorry
Just because your site isn't doing well, that doesn't mean the update "sucks". The question to ask is, "Are the sites ahead of you relevant?" and "Do you see less spam and better results?" That is how we should judge the update, not by the rankings of your own site.
Take care,
Brian
sorry to go on ive been out celebrating my engagement......! must go to bed!
goodnight ;)
BCentral only allows one submission per day per site. So people like me with a backlog of 20 pages to submit will have a long wait.
Sure would like to hear right from the horse's mouth what works for multiple submissions <nudge nudge Inktomi>
You can submit no more than 20 URLs from the same domain in a 24-hour period. If you are working on many different sites with different domains, then you can submit 20 URLs from each one within a 24-hour period.
I sure hope so! The pages we did have in until this update were ranked fairly well. One of our main pages in the top ten for our chosen keywords. Unfortunately that page no longer exists in the index from what I can tell and pages that have not been active in years are now showing up.
I'll have to overcome the urge to call you InktomiGuy (or Girl?) though. :)
I didn't understand what was happening until I read this thread.
I definitely hope this "short term impact" doesn't draw out to forever.
That said congrats Inktomi on a fresh db.
Dazz congrats on the engagement I just celebrated my 2nd anniversary. Believe me it's not so bad on the other side.
Looks like the PFI party is winding down and the hangover is about to begin.
"Because the new Inktomi index is so large, paid inclusion content will comprise a smaller percentage of the pages, and may have a short-term impact on traffic delivered to paid inclusion subscribers."
I always thought paying wasn't supposed to influence results ;) except for guaranteeing inclusion in the database. Does that "short term" mean until we can tweak the XML feed to improve the advertisers rankings?
Its really great to see, but almost comical in these days of the pursuit of profit that Google may have actually drawn Inktomi into a duel to see who can compete on quality and relevancy instead of delivering the most advertising for the largest amount of cash.
Rock on Google!
What a waste of money PFI has turned out to be.
In the top 20:
13 pages are blatent spam of which one is PFI.
No other PFI pages.
6 duplicate domains.
They really are going to have to do much better. This only encourges people to spam and not pay for PFI. Hardly a great SE business model.
Great news with the update am not only seing my results but greater clarity in the listings, particularly in MSN. Which for the record is reason enough to use your programme. As for people who have severe problems with your DB, they were probably cloaking and you slapped them with a short-term burying!, or they weren't targeting the right keywords or they did not understand how to make the most of your search database. Don't drop out of the race, as for the PFI comment by one of the don's at Inktomi HQ it probably could have been worded better but the bottom line is that you will have to spend money to get indexed and it is unrealistic to believe otherwise so I'm not having a sleepless one! Just try and get some more deals with other search engines before we get taken over by Google, which would make SEO really boring!
PS. What's the deal is GoogleGuy trying to make a Googtomi baby?
So why submit 20 pages from the same site?
They've made fools of themselves. They've pumped out their septic tank and served it up to everyone as a meal. Free submit spam pages, some of which are 2 years old, are ranking to the top.
It reminds me of that old satire on American politics where a losing politican went so far as to fetch bodies out of the morgue and had them wheeled into the voting booth (with his help, of course).
As I write, I can hear the laughter from Google without even opening my office window . . . . and they're 2600 miles away!
This is on top of about a 30% traffic loss when AOL switched over to Google.
Inktomi has bit the hand that feeds them.
re. Revenue from PFI + Loyalty of PFI clients
