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I never rant, but today is a good day to start. I've always liked AV, and they've been very good to me. I've got one single page that's holding steady at #1,3,3 and 8 on 4 separate phrases. My own index page fluctuates between #3 and #8, the graphics page at #1. Another site I fiddled with is 1 out of almost 3 mill. There are several more that I'm as happy as a pig in slop about. I don't resubmit unless there's a major change or a page is added. They don't bother me, I don't bother them. If I do some tweaking, I submit just the tweaked page.
I looked at results for one site that was doing very well, and it's dropped wayyy down. No changes, no resubmission. BUT I hunted around, and it seems the lady has identical items, identical text on a multitude of different sites all over the place.
That site has done fairly well across the board, and has taken an across-the-board slide (except for Google so far). I do believe she added yet another page to the collection in the last week or two.
It's got me concerned because I can't think of a thing to make any improvements with (except more links which are coming later this month)- and I suspect it might not be a good idea to resubmit, either.
Can those duplications cause a severe drop, or an eventual ban?
(Apology - I understand these things happen, even getting totally dumped - I'm just concerned that efforts are being sabotaged by someone's "helping" )
Edited by: Marcia
Note: I checkced the same site/terms this morning and they were where they should have been, holding steady at 13 and 43. As of 2pm... dead weight.
"if too many similarities are found then you will be flagged for a review of some sort"
then the concern is even more serious. I'm perfectly aware that sites drop down, and get bumped out altogether - I've had it happen. Make some changes and/or resubmit. I realize that there are any number of possible reasons, and that it's to be expected, but this is a different issue.
The product(s) are identical, with identical descriptions, and of course the company name is the same, so this case is different.
It's more than a matter of working on rankings. If there's any potential for me to be cast in a suspicious light, that's anything but acceptable, and I'll take steps to remedy the situation or remove myself from it - just in case. Better safe than sorry. And I won't resubmit.
>>There is a light on the horizon.. the site in quesiton is at >>EXACTLY the position it was in before the meteoric rise. >>Coincidence? I think not. Old DB.. I think YES
I have gone from 3 to 30 on one of my major phrases, I was at about 30 before the big rise. I don't think it is the old DB though, I have 8 more pages listed than last week. Could be an old (non-themes) algo.
This is what I just discovered - so I am no longer concerned with anything that happened this week: the page that was #3 or #6 with the 4 word search term that's used a lot is now #25, with the old page title= not the one that was showing up higher (the current title, on there for weeks). Also, truncating the first word, the 3 word phrase, also used, is # 30 - also with the old title. None of the dupe pages show up higher than the page I did, in addition to there being a LOT of irrelevant sites higher up - today, anyway.
What had been found was a bunch of pre-existing pages with duplicate products and descriptions - under a search for the company name.
I have no doubt that there was a shuffling, because this is just like a result from some time in early July, when this site was first submitted. Except that the Christmas page, submitted in August, is still #2 for that subdirectory.
"I have gone from 3 to 30 on one of my major phrases, I was at about 30 before the big rise. I don't think it is the old DB though, I have 8 more pages listed than last week."
About the same scenario Mark, except that I only added 1 page. I somehow don't think this is a week to stress over dropping out or down - it seems to have dropped back - kind of something like Groundhog Day.