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But it is a .se site and when I looked in altavista.se every single page was there. Problem is that his market is worldwide and even Swedes often pick altavista.com over altavista.se even though AV make a sales pitch for the local language version in a new window everytime they are accessed.
So it would seem that AV is weeding out non dot-coms from their main index, placing them in the growing number of AV international versions instead. If this is true, having a national domain could become a real problem for sites with a worldwide market. And a real pain in the neck for those in countries where the surfers prefer altavista.com over their national version.
Does anyone know anything about this? Time to get a dot-com?
>Does anyone know anything about this?
Not really, but doesn't it seem logical that any SE would choose to populate their international offerings this way?
Not if they want to give relevant answers. The exclusive service this guy sells knows no national boundaries. Sticking his site inside a national version of AV is not just his loss, but AV's and their visitors' as well. Plus, when this weeding becomes widely known, dot-com registrations will explode as national domains are abandoned and AV will find itself back at square 1 again. I for one, will strongly recommend dot-com for anything in English, and you too I see, rc.
>dot-com registrations will explode as national domains are abandoned and AV will find itself back at square 1 again.
I could make the argument that AV plans to use this as a sort process outside their algorithm. English sites end up getting back in under their dotcom, distinctly national sites stay in the proper locale.
Believe me, rc. That is a whole new ballgame opening up. At least for us simple country folks.
It also has the added benefit of reducing your dependence upon a single SE, spreads the risk.
I realize that the results are different in these searches (I searches for *webpromotion*, and I really donīt know why I got so many german and other language-results under *any language* in stead of *english*). It might be important where you come from -I deleted all my cookies, but the results are the same as before.
So, I canīt see that the germans results donīt appear.
AV.se did filter out almost all foreign domains in January, but accepted new submissions from other domain suffix than .se
We have not seen our non US clients drop from AV.com, but I believe it is tuffer to get in with a non us domain name these days.
This is the kind of questions that we are going to ask AltaVista at the IMS conferense in two weeks. I will post you what they answer.
oLeon>do you search for #keyword in *any language* or *english*
I just did the standard host:url without setting language, since the site is 99% in English.
Good idea. I think I will play around a little with language settings to see what happens.
henki>AltaVista Sweden say they are going to force all swedish surfers to the av.se
If they do that, they will loose my faithful patronage after 5 years. Have been fighting off that extra window they open for months now. Hello Fast, I'm on my way!
henki>AV.se did filter out almost all foreign domains in January
To make room for the weed outs from the main index perhaps? What do you think? (I still have 1095 se-pages in AV.com, but I guess doomsday may be approaching)
seth_wilde>I'm still wondering if there's a penalty...
Doubt it. It is a clean and nice site with great content and no hanky-panky. Could it be that they are weeding non dot-com sites with low linkage? The site that prompted me to start this thread is so new that it has only a handful. Any observations anyone?
It has always been a struggle getting our countries extension "co.za" into A.V with good listings. But, most of these sites are hosted in S.A and as a result, spiders struggle to make it accross the trans-atlantic link. However ,I have found that that even our sites which we host in the northern hemisphere with this extension struggle and as a result I always go for a .com.
I think that your friend will have to register a .com site and use that as his major SE marketing tool for the big US engines. Difficulty here is that after a period of 6 mths, he may have fantastic listings in other engines. Adding another english site to the mix could result in duplicate listings and penalties and the challenge will therefore be to make the site sufficiently dissimilar. Which for me, is still one of the million $ questions that I am tackling and stumbling over every once in awhile.
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