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Is it possible that the Portals have some financial incentive to use the small DB when traffic is heavy or when their quota is used up?
It just doesn't make sense to me that the DB is completely stabile in the smaller portals and only erratic (for me anyway) in MSN and AOL. In my case I only have about six pages but they are highly indexed to many key search terms.
Yes, we are getting the same results. The reason as to why,
your guess is as good as mine.
MSN IS wacky and AOL is way off base for us as well. It
seems (for us) that AOL is off doing its own thing of sorts
which leads us to believe they are aware of the ink problem/ issue, at least.
Does anyone have any solid info about the structure of Ink. Is it one massive db, or is Kamikaze right about there being two db's one old and one new. Can anyone confirm this information is correct? If this is right, are there any sources we can use to get information on some kind of timescale for when the full db will come back online?
The problem has got to be with Ink. because I'm still getting no joy all across the Ink. based SE's
So many questions... So many headaches to cure... So many clients to placate...
However, this does mean that there may be some light at the end of the tunnel as the current situation is not considered 'normal'. Now the question has got to be - when is it going to be back and if this new submission process has anything to do with the NSI deal?
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As I previously mentioned, my pages are ALL stabile in Hotbot, Canada, Anzwers. Freeserve, Iwon, Looksmart, and GOO.jp. By this I mean the positions are all within two/three ranking spots each time I do a test search.
Only MSN has been erratic lately. AOL is still on the small/bad
DB for us. In MSN I will get the large (good) DB sometimes and probably fifty percent of the time the small DB that only contains my home page.
This of course only relates to my small number of pages but they are highly optimized for several hundred key search terms (obscure medical terminology) and I currently am in the top ten for most of the key search words. There is definately a small data base as that is where I find my single home page when everything else in INK tanks.
The Ink.based portals are obviously using this system; one big mastercluster crawling and indexing the entire web and portals buying into a certain number of documents to filter and index with the aim to provide unique and relevant results.
However if one part of this system fails, like the db provider loosing any part of the mastercluster network then the portal will only recieve partial results.
I would imagine the reason that Gil and Kamikaze are getting different results is because there must be some kind of breakdown in providing larger quantities of documents for all the portals, and Gil's pages must be coming from smaller more stable db's being provided to and filtered by Hotbot, Canada, Anzwers. Freeserve, Iwon, Looksmart, and GOO.jp. This might be due to having more obscure content. MSN and AOL could be buying larger chunks of the Ink. mastercluster and therefore relying more heavily upon the larger quantities of documents which Ink.could be having the problem with. This would explain why Gil is getting nothing out of MSN and AOL but gets results from the others.
Kamikaze is in the same situation as myself, pages that once ranked well have now been totally dropped or buried by all Ink. based SE's. It could be because our keyword content is more popular, forcing the portals to get results from the larger document db they have with Ink.
So it could be that for one reason or another, Ink. is having problems providing larger db info to its clients. I can only assume that this is a temporary situation and either a technical breakdown, or a clear out.
This is of course all theory so dont hold me to it.
Please shoot me down if need be. Would like to think I've got my head around it.