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11/06/2001
Effective 12/17/01 URL substitution change:
URLs may be freely substituted during the first 30 days of subscription. Substitutions thereafter will be limited to within the domain.
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11/06/2001
Effective 11/17/01 Pricing for the Search/Submit program will be as follows.
URLs 2 - 1,000 - $25.00 each
:( :(
but a big THANKS for the tip off from those that gave it a couple of weeks ago
i took on quite a few, with good effect already, plus now seems even better value ... once again showing this is the place to be.
bad news but a good tip
imho it's outrageous. What's worth $15 sure might not be worth $25 when multiplied many times over on an annual basis, especially considering what goes on with the LookSmart listings at MSN.
It's been a good week, I don't even want to go near what I think of the whole LookSmart/Inktomi thing I see at MSN. :(
-s-
(edited by: stcrim at 11:13 pm (gmt) on Nov. 6, 2001)
I would cast doubt on the legality of that, in the UK at least.
I've just done some which were to be renewed on 6th December and it worked fine at the old price.
I say "let the buyer beware".
Can you tell me how you achieved this?
The renewal notices don't appear until nearer their expiry date. Did you re-register these as 'new URL's'(even though they haven't yet expired) or did you contact PT direct to do this.
Thanks
Markd
I renewed some from going to "order summary" and it give me the option to renew prior to them expiring, unfortunately my next load are not due until March so I’d better start saving :(
My most important URL's are up for renewal on 12 and 15 Dec - sod's law!
I will wait with baited trousers to see if PT will be as good as their word and I might scrape in before the hike!
Such is life - my Mum told me I should have been an Accountant!
Markd
"Dramatic price increases like this while the world economy slides into recession look to me like a mark of desperation."
Desperation? In keeping with the mood of times where a select few are profiting obscenely at the expense of most, I'd call it rampant greed.
Foreign currencies have been savaged of late and such increases, coming hard on the heels of Looksmart and Yahoo!'s, smack of a delusional self interest that bodes ill for all in the medium to long term.
Despite PT's string of boasted partners, I wonder if setbacks in the enterprise sector and the loss of another dependent partner (first Yahoo!, then Canada.com and now Anzwers) has anything to do with this shameful state of affairs.
Bunch of money sucking, fat-walleted... (mutter, mutter)
Inktomi's house appears to be packed every night. They weren't charging enough. The relevance level (lack thereof) on Ink engines was/is becoming a problem. How to fix it? Cut down on the listings by increasing the price.
I certainly would not be so interested - at $15 let alone $25.
I wouldn't pay the current fee let alone any increase, but hopefully that's not on the cards
"Frank Sinatra used to say, if the theater is full every night, you're not charging enough."
Besides being remarkably astute, Ol' Blue Eyes had friends in all the right places.
For starters, he would certainly know how to sort out the messy situation those thugs at PT have allowed develop. They are sloppy and have now to resort to tactics similar to those employed by GoTo when it dumped penny pinchers for people who knew the value of money.
Frank knew better than to let things slide to such a degree. Frank would know that INK's house is full only because listings like mine, despite having paid not a cent for them, continue to clutter the best seats in the house.
Despite what most women would believe of him, Frank would have me pay or lose my knee caps.
Were Frank to ask me, I would pay. Inktomi? Nah... :)
You should be fine. Just renew on the 12th and 15th of this month and you'll beat the increase.
Hang on! Ink have increased the prices - don't shoot the messenger. PT are friends here and shouldn't be blamed for things beyond their control (IMHO).
"Hang on! ..."
Whoops! Having adopted a somewhat theatrical tone, I trust they would allow for some artistic license.
"Nothing personal," as the messenger would say were I to do it my way. Blam! Blam! :)
But if you slip over to Yahoo <finance> and look at Inktomi's (INKT) financials, and note their losses for the third quarter, you might arrive at the conclusion that it's desperation driving them to the brink, not greed.
The essence of this ditty is that a supplier will put up the price of a service (or product)with the estimation that the price increase will earn them more profit and not affect (and continue to increase) demand amongst their customers. If this is occurs then demand can be considered 'elastic' as it will stretch even with a price increase. Even if they loose a few customers, or demand remains unchanged, the increase in profit (through the price rise) will compensate for the small loss of business.
IMHO this is Inktomi's strategy, as they are assuming that with recent AV, LS and Yahoo increases they can make more money by increasing prices without demand falling off significantly.
If however, it turns out that demand will not continue to increase significantly due to this rise, or will fall off to a point that the price increase will not compensate for loss of business, then demand for Ink's PFP will be considered 'inelastic'- as it will not stretch.
For me, this will be the case if they loose a major partner like MSN which is providing approx 65 - 70% of traffic through PFP.
At least they gave us some notice of the rise - makes a change!!!
Point taken about the tone - but gotta put my two cents worth in - - - - - - -
Position Tech has never tried to commercialize this forum. They have been extremely helpful with every situation I have taken to them. Their customer service great.
They (PT) like the rest of us have a relationship with INK and find themselves in the middle. They have a lot riding on the out come of INKTOMI and their policies.
My hat is off to PT - I for one would not want to be standing between the SEO community and INKTOMI.
-s-
Maybe they will get MSN to quit burying our pages under so many paid directory listings.
Anyone know if Ink is doing something to direct more traffic to us for the big price hike?
