Will Ink ever update unpaid pages?

Maybe you can answer this, Jim S.

[mayor]

I have some paid-for-indexing pages in Ink, but also have some new pages of low commercial value that I can't justify paying for to be indexed.

The best I can tell, new unpaid pages have not been indexed after around last March.

Will Ink ever index these pages, or should I just forget it?

[stcrim]

For now I would say do not put a lot of hope in it - I do see pages getting picked up from time to time - but there's no pattern I can put a finger on. Plus they can get dropped about as quick

-s-

[john316]

Ink has a policy of removing non-monetized urls of paid urls in an effort to monetize the whole site. If you paid for url #1, they most likely removed url#2 and #3 etc. in the hopes of getting you to pay for 2 and 3.

[ggrot]

Here is a suggestion. Go get an inki account over at network solutions(http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/catalog/searchsubmit/welcome.jhtml). The first URL is $30 of course, and each additional is $15. You probably only need one. This is a bit pricier than positiontech for basically the same thing, but here is where it pays off for small sites that need updating but not every 3 days:

You can change the url whenever you want, as many times as you want, to any domain/page that you want. So that one submission account can be used on a different page every 3 days. Takes a little effort, but not terribly so. If you are impatient, do two at a time(will cost you an extra $15). I use this for a couple of sites when I make small changes every once in a while (usually not sitewide). Hope that helps for you.

[mayor]

John, my site does not support the theory that Ink tries to force monetarization of paying sites. I have two sites. One has paid Ink pages and one does not. Both draw Ink traffic (MSN, AOl, for example) on non-paid pages.

So my experience tells me paying for inclusion has no impact on unpaid pages.

The non-paid pages that draw Ink traffic are older pages. This tells me that the impact on unpaid pages is that Ink quit indexing them back around March of this year.

It would not surprise me to see any dying search engine try to turn their machine into a cash cow for whatever they can milk it for. I would think a good way to turn a search engine into a cash cow would be to quit updating the data base except for paying new entries, then just let it fade away as users learn that fresher and more comphresive data bases are to be found elsewhere.

IMHO, I'm sorry to say, Ink is just <mooo milking the cow now! /mooo>.

[bartek]

Is anyone having any luck getting new (6 mths or less) domains indexed at all? It seems impossible without paying.

[john316]

This was copied from the now "disappeared" INK web site.

>>All content of a monetization customer should be monetized. That means that we should remove all non monetized urls from the webmap from either BOW or GigaDoc and only have the monetized partner-url urls in our clusters.<<

[WebGuerrilla]

Based on the example sites they listed in with the monetized comments, I think that they were probably only referring to Index Connect content. Tracking and kicking out non-paid content from sites the size of Amazon or eBay makes sense.
Those add up to thousands of URLs that would produce ongoing revenue.

I don't think they actively track and kick out non-paid content from smaller sites using the standard inclusion program. It just seems that it wouldn't be high on the priority list when there are so many large content providers they can put the squeeze on. :)

[pete]

bartek, I have tried most things in the last three to four months with new sites (Links from old sites in the database, submissions to all Inks many faces and the only way to get slurp to index new site pages seems to require paying.

GGRot. Thanks for the advice, that looks like an excellent option for clients with limited budgets.

[zechariah]

I got 3 unpaid sites indexed- the 1st one in May, 2nd & 3rd this month.Now what's left is only one.WHich is the 1st one that's sitting pretty on good keywords.But the 2nd & 3rd just vanished today after discovering it last monday.Probally is it because I changed the title for both hoping that it will respider & fair good in the rankings.Have they removed mine?-still got one.wow the updates does show the same time with their partners.