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INKTOMI - dropped pages

what, if anything do we all have in common

1:24 am on Jul 22, 2000 (gmt 0)

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With this drop, I lost 2,000 pages!!! I freely admit they were all doorways and gateways to affiliate programs.

Did anyone lose pages that were not doorways and that were not on domains that contained doors or gates???

What I think we should try to find out is, did a database really get pulled for INK to work on or do all of the pages (or sites with certain pages) have something in common.

Did anyone keep any pages in INK that were submitted on or after June First??? If yes, were any of them doorway or gateway style pages??? And what date were they submitted?

I think we can all benefit from comparing notes here...

Brett, you once mentioned you keep a steady stream of submissions going to INK - did any of your submissions indexed after June 1 drop for the database???



3:36 am on July 22, 2000 (gmt 0)

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I submitted very simple pages (no doorways) to Ink (through Canada) since beginning of July.
The first pages started to appear on MSN. Then everything disappears.

The question now is do we have to resubmit or to wait?
Did anybody resubmitted sucessfully pages since the drop?


4:18 am on July 22, 2000 (gmt 0)

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Well, I talked to one of the tech's at INK and he told me that I didn't really need to re-submit or anything. He said that everything should be back up in couple of days. Who knows when that is. And also, when he told me that I didn't have to re-submit, I wasn't sure if he was telling me that to get rid of me ASAP or if he was telling me the correct info. He was already irritated and frustrated from all the phone calls he's taken today.
5:27 am on July 22, 2000 (gmt 0)

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The pages I have had dropped cross the whole spectrum of what one might do at various stages of SEO. Some were content rich doorway pages, some were hallways but most were just ordinary sites which had their main pages optimized and had been submitted in the last two months and were ranking well. I've used no cloaking, no redirects, no frames nor any methods which could be deemed "spamming" such as hidden text etc, etc. Some were pages with low traffic some had high traffic. In all, this has effected 11 of the sites I'm working on sites - in 11 different fields.

The only common thread I can see is that sites which were in their permanent database could have had their newer updates added since June in to that database. All other new submissions have been dropped.

As an example, 1 site I have worked on is in Yahoo in a category where there is absolutely no-one else. Their listing in Yahoo directory appeared at the beginning of June. Their site has now disappeared from Inktomi - but if you type in the search term which would find them in Yahoo 'irish railways' - that category does show up as having a listing in Inktomi.

My theory (for what its' worth)? Inktomi have fouled up on a transfer of data from the temporary DB to the permanent. When the first drop occured at the beginning of July, every page dropped re-appeared (without resubmission) 24 hours later. On the next drop - a week later - 24 hours after the drop all pages re-appeared including new ones I had submitted 4 days prior to both Canada and Anzwers except my longest standing and highest traffic pages which I would have thought would have been candidates for the permanent DB? 24 hours later everything went again.

So I believe that this catastrophe has more to do with SNAFU than conspiracy!

Hope this doesn't muddy the waters even more.


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