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This is my favorite..

from the 103 listing in the MSN/INk dbase...

     
5:52 pm on Jan 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Excite Search Results for "search engine optimization"
Quick Find Excite Home Autos Business Careers Computers Education Entertainment Family Games Health Investing Lifestyle Music People & Chat Real Estate Relationships Shopping Site Index Sports Travel Search: Web Sites News Products Photos MP3/Aud
[search.excite.com...]

Now, anybody care to comment on this one? I love ink! :)

Cheers,
Han Solo

6:21 pm on Jan 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Sorry but did I miss something? I didn't know Excite and Inktomi had a relationship. What kind of relationship do they have?
8:38 pm on Jan 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

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should have saved the page...

ealier today, that was the 103 listing in msn when somebody searched for search engine optimization.

Not that any normal surfer would dig that deep, especially when looking for seo, I was just trying to illustrate the wacky garbage they have for listings right now.

Cheers,

Han Solo

8:41 pm on Jan 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

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also, if somebody looks right now, and follows this link:

[search.msn.com...]

it should give them as the 138 listing for search engine optimization the same kind of thing, only this time yahoo instead of excite.

I think that they are recreating the database by stimulating the spiders with queries to other databases...working theory, pay it no mind. :)

Cheers,

Han Solo

PS, do the mods mind me sometimes replying to my own posts? I only do it to make sure, at times, that what I feel is good news to get "noticed" or replied to...let me know if it's not okay. ;)

7:22 am on Jan 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

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han solo, stcrim is the mod of this forum, and I notice that he hasn't posted any C&D, so I assume it's OK with him :)

Actually, I am now personally frequenting the Ink forum for two reasons. First, it has become my "Whine Cellar" where I come to vent - compared to trying to figure out what is going on with Inktomi, all the papers from the archives of academia seem like duck soup.

Second, reading your posts is like following an intelligent blog (web log) on subjects of common interest and concern. I also talk to myself, especially lately. :)

I have paid my fee and subscribed, and will now be talking to Position Tech, which I immediately began to do this evening, with one of my infamously long emails, within mere seconds of hitting the final submit button.

I will return tomorrow. :)

Marcia

8:52 am on Jan 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

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This is rapidly becoming a modern day black art. If it didn't affect my clients, I'd be having a ball trying to figure the whole thing out. It's an amazing puzzle.

As it is, trying to please Inktomi as well as Google, AV and whoever else, is an incredible double-bind. No, make that at least a quadruple bind.

Can anyone answer this: how is it that one page can get almost twice the hits from MSN (where it is #78) as it does from AOL, where it is #5? AND on AOL it also has a GoTo listing at the top of the page? never saw such differnec betwee those two before.

This a paid-for Ink page that has me talking to myself, and the client is definitely wondering WHHAAAATS UUUUUPPP?

11:35 pm on Jan 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Marcia,

Yep, I may be the Moderator here - but I think I've missed something on this thread - or I'm just plan lost.

han solo - I answer myself all the time, in fact sometimes I'm the only one willing to answer me - so feel free to reply to your own posts.

To be real honest - I'm not follow the gest of this thread

Steve

11:55 pm on Jan 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Steve, han solo asked this:

>>PS, do the mods mind me sometimes replying to my own posts? I only do it to make sure, at times, that what I feel is good news to get "noticed" or replied to...let me know if it's not okay

I said:
>>han solo, stcrim is the mod of this forum, and I notice that he hasn't posted any C&D, so I assume it's OK with him

And then you replied:

>>han solo - I answer myself all the time, in fact sometimes I'm the only one willing to answer me - so feel free to reply to your own posts.

Even tedster is talking to himself:

>>This a paid-for Ink page that has me talking to myself,

So that's about what there is to follow in this thread.

2:10 am on Jan 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Tedster,

I have a no-pay MSN listing that beats all pay for options for a certain keyword. The keyword is the main keyword for the site.

Might be some user click popularity thing. It was well listed and heavily clicked on before the whole pay for spider thing came along.

Like you it gives the goto term a run for its money.

Minnapple

2:35 am on Jan 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, in the past year especially, MSN has become a very powerful traffic source. Might be all those $400 discounts on new machines when you sign up for MSN as a provider.

I know I'm paying a lot of attention. It's the main reason I care about Inktomi right now.

4:43 am on Jan 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>all those $400 discounts on new machines when you sign up for MSN as a provider

That's what I did. I was using MSN anyway - had no problems ever up to that point, and still haven't, except for their disastrous problems a few months ago - and got a close-out P2/350 for an incredible price (I didn't want a P3).

I have noticed on a couple of sites that MSN generates unexpectedly good traffic. Not tremendous, but proportionately good for the type of sites. Ditto on the reason for Ink interest.

 

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