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Inktomi discourages the use of doorway and jump pages in its index. However, we recognize that some pages are not crawler-friendly. For these, Inktomi will allow one doorway per destination. More than one doorway to the same page will be considered spam and may be removed.
Okay, my question/comment is:
Lets say you run a site that pertains to many search terms
for instance a consumer electronics site with cameras,tv's,vcr's,dvd players, dvd moves, vhs movies, etc etc... How are you supposed to make
one page that will cater to all those key words.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that if your site has
a lot of content how are you to make 1 page that will work
for many keyword searches for a site that is "not crawler-friendly"
Thanks in advance for you responce
Sparks
If I am reading what you put correctly, it seems you could put one "camara" doorway to your camera page and one doorway to your "tv" page and one doorway to your DVD page.
In other words:
one doorway to
www.whatever.com/tvs.htm
another to
www.whatever.com/dvd.htm
another to
www.whatever.com/cameras.htm
One page to each destination. The above three urls are three different destinations.
That is how I would intrepret that sentence from Inktomi.
Right? Guys?
-G
I think the key is stated in this line:
More than one doorway to the same page will be considered spam and may be removed.
I would build separate doorways, one for each keyphrase. Point them to the corresponding pages on the non-spider-friendly site.
In other words, you "dvd players" doorway would point to the dvd players section on your site, not the home page.
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grnidone beat me to it! That is how I read it as well.
>we recognize that some pages are not crawler-friendly. For these, Inktomi will allow one doorway per destination.
That is the only ambiguous part. Are they saying that if the page is crawler friendly then no doorways are allowed or that you get two bites of the cherry?
hehe
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Drastic beat me to it! That is how I read it as well.
Edited by: NFFC
I can see the point you guys are making and I appricate the
responce. The problem is if you are marketing for a site
that provides service and you can't design the site with
a 1000 or so pages without making the site easy to navagate
for the average surfer.
My delima is that the site owner has 3 total pages and
provides countless types of services. His site caters
to the agerage "Joe" who is still pretty new to the net
and would need a personal tour guide if the different
services were to be split into their pages.
Guess I'll have to figure a different way around it.
Spiders can recognise doorway pages because nothing points to them, whilst they point inwards to destination page(s).
If you construct doorway pages based on specific keyword phrases - as in your case, and make sure that in the footer of every page including the destination page you have every page linked with none at all missing, then how can a spider see these as doorway pages?
Doorway pages have many things in common other than their linking - thinks that are easy to spot. With that said, I have many old style DW pages that are still doing very well in the older INK Database.
The bigger issue with us is that if a DW page is about apples, it points to a page with apple information on it...
thanks for the comment, how else would you say doors are recognised by spiders besides linking.
I promise Im not avoiding your question with this answer. The best was to learn about how easy doorways are to spot is to start searching them out. When you get on a page that has a certain doorway look and feel - break it down and look at all the things it has in common with other doorways.
Then rest assured, INK and all the others are able to pin point the same things...
In a sense, every page is a doorway page in that there are links to other pages, and, most commonly to the home page for the site.
Perhaps, this raises the question of how Inktomi defines a doorway page
I think INK now defines a doorway as "a source of profit" :) It is a wise idea to have links coming from other sites (of yours) to your doorways. This seems to help remove them from that "doorway only" catagory.
100 percent of my pay to play pages are traditional doorways. But they follow the rules of leading to pages with same content...
Anyhow, I always set up links to my doorway (informational) pages from my other sites (ie. in hallway pages). I trust this is sufficient to overcome their removal.
This page could be a non profit door way (just to get to Ace's profile).
Thanks for stopping back in Ace. If you want me to dig up your own numbers I will (your account got weeded a few months back due to inactivity, but I still have it on file).
Anyway, I think you are more than fine with doorways and Ink. I think they are doing a great deal of hand surfing of "red flag" sites. As long as you don't send up any spam red flags, you'll be alright (invisible text, spam, repitition..etc).
